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her mother → Belén de Jesús Ustáriz Lecuna

her mother → Miguel María Ramón de Jesus Uztáriz y Monserrate

her father → María de Guía de Jesús de Monserrate é Ibarra

his mother → Teniente Coronel Manuel José de Monserrate y Urbina

her father → Antonieta Felicita Javiera Ignacia de Urbina y Hurtado de Mendoza

his mother → Isabel Manuela Josefa Hurtado de Mendoza y Rojas Manrique

her mother → Juana de Rojas Manrique de Mendoza

her mother → Constanza de Mendoza Mate de Luna

her mother → Mayor de Mendoza Manzanedo

her mother → Juan Fernández De Mendoza Y Manuel

her father → Sancha Manuel

his mother → Sancho Manuel de Villena Castañeda, señor del Infantado y Carrión de los Céspedes

her father → Manuel de Castilla, señor de Escalona

his father → Saint Ferdinand III, king of Castile and León

his father → Berenguela I la Grande, reina de Castilla

his mother → Eleanor of England, Queen consort of Castile

her mother → Eleanor d'Aquitaine, Queen Consort Of England

her mother → William X, Duke of Aquitaine

her father → Philippa de Toulouse, comtesse de Poitiers

his mother → Guillaume IV comte de Toulouse

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Raymond Toulouse, III, Count of Toulouse and Prince of Gothia 

Gender: Male

Birth: estimated between 910 and 970 

Death: 978

Immediate Family:

Husband of Adélaïde la Blanche d'Anjou, Reine consort d'Aquitaine

Father of Guillaume III Taillefer, comte de Toulouse


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Adelaide's second marriage was to Raymond III, Count of Toulouse and Prince of Gothia,[2] in 975. He died in 978. She had by him at least one child:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelaide-Blanche_of_Anjou


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See this site regarding lack of consensus on the general connections of the counts of Toulouse:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_III,_Count_of_Toulouse'''


Raymond III is the designation assigned to distinct or possibly-distinct Counts of Toulouse in the mid-to-late 10th century. Recent scholarship has overturned the traditional account of the counts during this period without consensus arising for a new reconstruction. IN OTHER WORDS - NO CONSENSUS ON HIS PARENTAGE


This consensus reconstruction was shown to be flawed by the discovery of a 992 charter of William III and his wife Emma which explicitly named William's mother as the still-living 'Adelaix'. While this document shows that William was not son of Raymond Pons and Garsenda, it does little to illuminate the true relationships, and several scholars have proposed alternative solutions. These are in agreement with regard to the identity of William's mother. She is identified with Adelaide of Anjou, who as widow of the deceased Raymond of Gothia, married to Louis V, King of France, divorcing him two years later and remarrying William III of Provence. Her husband, the 'Prince of Gothia', had previously gone unrecognized or had been dismissed as inaccurate, but given the historical association of this title with the County of Toulouse, the identification of William's mother with Adelaide of Anjou is now accepted. This means that William's father was a previously unrecognized Count Raymond of Toulouse, but his relationship to the previous documented count, Raymond Pons, remains a matter of debate, with several competing theories being proposed.


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El título Príncipe de Gothia (princeps Gothiæ) o Príncipe de los godos (princeps Gothorum) era un título de nobleza, a veces asumido por su poseedor como un signo de supremacía en la región de Gothia y otras veces otorgado por el soberano de Francia Occidental al noble principal en el sur del reino, en los siglos IX y X. A veces hereditario y otras no, el título se ha traducido en inglés como Duque (o Margrave) de Septimania (dux Septimaniæ) o Duque (o Margrave) de Gothia (Gothiæ marchio). A menudo se llevaba a cabo un "cargo" similar o el mismo con el título comes marcæ Hispanicæ: "Conde (o Margrave) de la Marcha Española". El título también fue un recurso de un cronista y, como se presenta en algunas crónicas, es posible que nunca se haya utilizado en una capacidad oficial.


El primer empleador del título de "duque de Septimania" fue Guillermo de Gellone, quien actuó como principal funcionario y señora de Carlomagno en la región. Fue sucedido por Berengario el Sabio, quien también usó el título ducal-margravial. A su vez, fue sucedido por Bernardo de Septimania, a quien se llama comes marcæ Hispanicæ en los Annales Bertiniani. Gobernó tanto el condado de Toulouse como el de Barcelona, ​​al otro lado de los Pirineos. Toulouse fue la capital de Septimania, también llamada Gothia o más tarde Languedoc, mientras que Barcelona fue la capital de Cataluña. Tenían historias independientes después de la conquista árabe de Iberia, pero ambos eran visigodos en población. La Marca Hispanica correspondía a las tierras góticas del otro lado de los Pirineos al este de Navarra. Evidentemente, la marca se consideraba una unidad política compuesta por varios condados. En las guerras civiles en la región que siguieron a la caída y muerte de Bernard en 844, el título quedó en suspenso.


Alrededor de 858, Carlos el Calvo otorgó a Humfrid varios condados catalanes y el título de Gothiæ marchio, lo que significa la misma supremacía sobre la marcha hispana que Bernard había celebrado años antes. En 862, Humfrid fue depuesto y probablemente en esa época, Bernard Plantapilosa fue nombrado margrave de Gothia. En algún momento antes de 876, él también fue depuesto y reemplazado por Bernardo II de Poitou. Este Bernardo era conocido como "Bernardo de Gothia", pero su intento de usurpar la autoridad en Gothia fue recibido con un duro castigo por parte de su soberano y estaba fuera del poder en 877. A principios de la década de 880, Carlos el Gordo empleó a tres mariones para actuar virreyes en la mayor parte de su reino que no visitaba con regularidad. Bernard Plantapilos volvió al favor y volvió a gobernar en Gothia y probablemente también en Provenza y Cataluña, quizás toda Aquitania.


En 932, Rodolfo de Francia revivió el título y lo otorgó (princeps Gothiæ) a los hermanos Ermengol de Rouergue y Raymond Pons de Toulouse. El cambio de título de marchio a princeps fue indicativo del cambio en la estructura política y la creciente independencia de los grandes magnates del poder real en el siglo x. Los hermanos lograron transmitir los títulos princeps y marchio a sus descendientes, pero el título tuvo poco significado después de eso. Guillermo III de Toulouse, marchio prefatus in pago Tholosano ("prefecto margrave en el país de Toulousain"), también se convirtió en margrave de Provenza.


Príncipes de Gothia

Guillermo de Gellone (abdicó en 806)

Berengario el Sabio (806-837)

Bernardo de Septimania (837 - 844)

Humfrid (858 - 862)

Bernard Plantapilosa (863 - 876)

Bernardo de Gothia (876 - 877)

Bernard Plantapilosa (884 - 885)

Ermengol de Rouergue (932 - 937)

Raymond Pons de Toulouse (932 - 950)

Raymond II de Rouergue (937 - 965)

Raimundo de Toulouse (950 - 978)

Raymond III de Rouergue (965-1008)

William Taillefer (978 - 1037)

Raymond IV (1041 - 1105) Príncipe de Gothia comenzó a ser llamado "Marqués de Gothia", título que llevaba como líder de la Primera Cruzada. [1] Como conde de Toulouse, pertenecía a la nobleza de Francia, que tenía el mismo rango que el rey de los francos.

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https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_%28IV%29_de_Toulouse


https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_IV_de_Toulouse


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_IV,_Count_of_Toulouse


Raymond IV or V? (Uncertain numerical designation, see below) Count of Toulouse Note: The William IV in Wikipedia was NOT the William married to Adelaide-Blanche!


Traditional reconstruction[edit] Until recently, Raymond III was the numerical designation assigned Raymond Pons, Count of Toulouse, who seems to have succeeded his father as count before 926, and who is last seen in 944, apparently being dead by 969. In that year his widow Garsenda appears, acting alone. It was thought that she then acted as guardian for Raymond's successor and (supposed) son, William III, Count of Toulouse, who appears along with his wife Emma in the early 11th century. This reconstruction was not without problems. Not only was the chronology of this single generation long, but it is at odds with a surviving contemporary source, the Códice de Roda. The surviving manuscript of this collection of genealogies is of a later date, but is thought to derive from a 10th-century original. In its account of the Counts of Toulouse, it shows Garsenda, daughter of García II Sánchez of Gascony, to have married (Raymond) Pons, having by him one son, Raymond, who in turn is given children Hugh and Raymond. William (III) is not mentioned. Likewise, the will of Garsenda fails to name William. Reevaluation[edit]


This consensus reconstruction was shown to be flawed by the discovery of a 992 charter of William III and his wife Emma which explicitly named William's mother as the still-living 'Adelaix'. While this document shows that William was not son of Raymond Pons and Garsenda, it does little to illuminate the true relationships, and several scholars have proposed alternative solutions. These are in agreement with regard to the identity of William's mother. She is identified with Adelaide of Anjou, who as widow of the deceased Raymond of Gothia, married to Louis V, King of France, divorcing him two years later and remarrying William III of Provence. Her husband, the 'Prince of Gothia', had previously gone unrecognized or had been dismissed as inaccurate, but given the historical association of this title with the County of Toulouse, the identification of William's mother with Adelaide of Anjou is now accepted. This means that William's father was a previously unrecognized Count Raymond of Toulouse, but his relationship to the previous documented count, Raymond Pons, remains a matter of debate, with several competing theories being proposed.


Reconstruction 1[edit] Thierry Stasser identified Adelaide's husband with the last-named family member appearing in the Roda pedigree, the brother of Hugh, both sons of an earlier Raymond and grandsons of Raymond Pons and Garsenda. This Stasser harmonized with the will of Garsenda, in which she names her nepotes (grandsons or nephews) Hugh and Raymond, children of Guidinilda. He would thus introduce two generations, both named Raymond, between Raymond Pons and William III. The first would be the husband of Guidinilda and the father of Hugh and Raymond, with the latter in turn being the husband of Adelaide and father of William III. Given that Garsenda referred to Hugh and Raymond only by the names of their mother, it may be that the elder of the new Raymonds had likewise died by 969. The addition of as many as three additional counts (Raymond, Hugh and Raymond) would displace the numbering of all subsequent counts named Raymond.


Stasser reconstruction of 10th century Toulouse counts Raymond Pons Count of Toulouse Garsenda


Raymond (III) Count of Toulouse


Guidinildis


Hugh (?) Count of Toulouse


Raymond (IV) Count of Toulouse


Adelaide of Anjou


William III Count of Toulouse


Reconstruction 2[edit] Martin de Framond suggested two alternatives, the first of which introduced just one intervening generation. He suggests that Raymond Pons and Garsenda were succeeded by a son Raymond, who as in the Codice de Roda had sons Hugh and Raymond, but that as widower of Guidinilda he subsequently married Adelaide, having younger son but eventual heir William. The addition of just a single additional count Raymond in this reconstruction has allowed the traditional numbering to be massaged - some subsequent compilers have used the byname to distinguish Raymond Pons, and then referred to the subsequent novel count as Raymond III, without changing the traditional numbering of subsequent counts of that name.


First Framond reconstruction of 10th century Toulouse counts


Raymond Pons

Count of Toulouse Garsenda


Guidinildis


Raymond (III) Count of Toulouse


Adelaide of Anjou


Raymond


Hugh


William III Count of Toulouse


Reconstruction 3[edit] In his second reconstruction, Martin de Framond placed more weight on the will of Garsenda, which could be read as implying that she left no children. He suggests that the nepotes Hugh and Raymond were children of Raymond II, Count of Rouergue, the nephew of Raymond Pons and his heir-male were he to die without sons. He suggests that Raymond of Rouergue may have succeeded his uncle as Count of Toulouse, and that the husband of Adelaide was son of this count, a like-named half-brother to Raymond III of Rouergue. [hide]Second Framond reconstruction of 10th century Toulouse counts


Raymond Pons Count of Toulouse


Garsenda


Ermengol Count of Rouergue


Bertha of Tuscany


Raymond II/(III) Count of Rouergue and Toulouse


Guidinildis


Raymond III Count of Rouergue


Adelaide of Anjou


Raymond (IV) Count of Toulouse


Hugh


Given the lack of consensus over possible reconstructions, the name Raymond III, originally referring to Raymond Pons, is now ambiguous. It can still refer to Raymond Pons, to a hypothesized son who married successively Guidinilda and Adelaide of Anjou, to a hypothesized son who was husband of Guidinilda and father-in-law of Adelaide, or to Raymond II, Count of Rouergue. No consensus has arisen regarding these alternative reconstructions, nor on how previous hypotheses identifying possible siblings of William III fit into these new rearranged pedigrees.


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Guillaume III Taillefer, comte de Toulouse is your 22nd great grandfather.of→ Carlos Juan Felipe Antonio Vicente De La Cruz Urdaneta Alamo→  Morella Álamo Borges

your mother → Belén Borges Ustáriz

her mother → Belén de Jesús Ustáriz Lecuna

her mother → Miguel María Ramón de Jesus Uztáriz y Monserrate

her father → María de Guía de Jesús de Monserrate é Ibarra

his mother → Teniente Coronel Manuel José de Monserrate y Urbina

her father → Antonieta Felicita Javiera Ignacia de Urbina y Hurtado de Mendoza

his mother → Isabel Manuela Josefa Hurtado de Mendoza y Rojas Manrique

her mother → Juana de Rojas Manrique de Mendoza

her mother → Constanza de Mendoza Mate de Luna

her mother → Mayor de Mendoza Manzanedo

her mother → Juan Fernández De Mendoza Y Manuel

her father → Sancha Manuel

his mother → Sancho Manuel de Villena Castañeda, señor del Infantado y Carrión de los Céspedes

her father → Manuel de Castilla, señor de Escalona

his father → Saint Ferdinand III, king of Castile and León

his father → Berenguela I la Grande, reina de Castilla

his mother → Eleanor of England, Queen consort of Castile

her mother → Eleanor d'Aquitaine, Queen Consort Of England

her mother → William X, Duke of Aquitaine

her father → Philippa de Toulouse, comtesse de Poitiers

his mother → Guillaume IV comte de Toulouse

her father → Pons II Guillaume, comte de Toulouse

his father → Guillaume III Taillefer, comte de Toulouse

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Guilllem III 'Taillefer' de Tolosa, comte de Tolosa MP 

Gender: Male

Birth: circa 970

Death: September 1037 (62-71) 

Place of Burial: Saint-Sernin, Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, Midi-Pyrénées, France

Immediate Family:

Son of Raymond III, Count of Toulouse and Prince of Gothia and Adélaïde la Blanche d'Anjou, Reine consort d'Aquitaine

Husband of Arsende; Emma and N.N.

Father of Raymond; Aialric; Constance De Toulouse; Pons II Guillaume, comte de Toulouse; Rangarda de Toulouse, comtesse consort de Carcassonne and 1 other

Half brother of Ermengarde de Toulouse; Pons, comte de Gévaudan; Ermengarde / Humberge de Limoges de Gévaudan, [daughter of Etienne II de Gévaudan and ADelais d'Anjou]; Almodis de Limoges de Gévaudan; Eimilde de Gévaudan and 4 others


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Guilllem III 'Taillefer' de Tolosa, comte de Tolosa

-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III,_Count_of_Toulouse


From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Toulouse Kings, Dukes, and Counts: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE.htm#_Toc225040410


GUILLAUME de Toulouse, son of RAYMOND Comte de Toulouse & his wife Adelais d'Anjou ([970/75]-Sep 1037, bur Toulouse, Saint-Sernin).


His mother names her son Guillaume de Toulouse and his wife Emma in an act dated 1021[336]. He succeeded his father in [978] as GUILLAUME III “Taillefer” Comte de Toulouse.


"Dominus princeps et marchio istius provinciæ…Willelmus cum coniuge sua…Adelaix et filio suo…Willelmo" restored property to the abbey of Saint-Césaire d´Arles by charter dated 992, subscribed by "Domnus Rotbaldus comes…Willelmus comes filius Rotbaldi et uxor sua Lucia, Wilelmus comes Tolosanus et uxor sua Ema…"[337]. The list of subscribers of this document presents dating difficulties as the last two named couples appear from other primary sources to belong to a later period. The probable explanation is that two lists from two different documents were copied and incorrectly combined.


The testament of "Ermengaudus archipresul", dated to [1005], bequeathed property to "…Willelmo comiti Tolosano…"[338]. A charter dated to [1006] records the council of the archiepiscopal provinces of Narbonne and Auch held by "Raimundus episcopus Tolosanus et Guillelmus comes Albiensium ac Caturcensium et Tolosanorum" at Toulouse[339].


A bull of "Benedictus episcopus", warning against those who usurped the rights of the monastery of Saint-Gilles, names "Guilelmo comiti necnon matri sue Adelati"[340]. The compilation consulted assumes that this bull was issued by Pope Benedict IX, and therefore dated to [1033/44]. It is unlikely that this can be correct, considering the estimated birth date of Comte Guillaume's mother (see above). For chronological consistency, it is more probable that the document was issued by Pope Benedict VIII whose papacy ran from 1012 to 1024. Dating the document to the early years of this papacy would explain explain why the count's mother is named in place of his wife (on the assumption that Guillaume's first wife predeceased the bull, and that it was issued before his second marriage), and would also be consistent with his mother's supposed fifth marriage assuming that this is dated to [1014/16].


"Wilelmi comitis Tholosani…" witnessed the charter dated 18 Dec 1029 which records the foundation of the monastery of Sauve by "Garsindis et filius meus Bremundus et frater eius Almeradus"[341]. "Willelmo patri suo, Bertramno…" subscribed the charter dated 14 Sep 1037 under which "Poncius" donated property to "sponse mee Maiore" at the time of their marriage[342].


An epitaph in Toulouse Saint-Sernin records the burial of "Willelmus comes cognomine Taliafer atque Raimundus Bertrandi", undated[343].


[m firstly ARSENDE, daughter of ---.


The Liber miraculorum Sanctæ Fidæ names "Arsendis, uxor Vuillelmi Tholosani comitis, fratris…Pontii", the latter being identified as Pons de Gévaudun, son of Adelais d'Anjou by her first marriage and uterine brother of Comte Guillaume III, when recording that she sought the intervention of the saint because she was childless[344]. This passage, as quoted in translation in the Histoire Générale de Languedoc, also records that Arsende gave birth successively to two sons Raymond and Henri after her return from visiting the saint[345].


This version of events is, however, contradicted by the charter dated 999, quoted below, according to which all four of the sons of Comte Guillaume were born from his marriage to his wife Emma. In addition, Comte Guillaume and Emma are first named in a charter dated 992, which leaves little time for children to have been born from an earlier marriage, assuming that Guillaume´s birth date is correctly estimated as shown above.


It therefore seems doubtful whether the Liber, which represents the only reference so far found to this supposed first wife, can be an accurate report. Until more information comes to light, it is therefore prudent to show this first marriage in square brackets in the present document.]


m [secondly] (992 or before) EMMA de Provence, daughter of ROTBOLD [II] Comte de Provence, de Venaissin et de Forcalquier & his [first] wife Ermengarde --- ([975/80]-after 1063).


"Dominus princeps et marchio istius provinciæ…Willelmus cum coniuge sua…Adelaix et filio suo…Willelmo" restored property to the abbey of Saint-Césaire d´Arles by charter dated 992, subscribed by "Domnus Rotbaldus comes…Willelmus comes filius Rotbaldi et uxor sua Lucia, Wilelmus comes Tolosanus et uxor sua Ema…"[346]. "Wilelmus comes Tholose" donated "villam…Pertusus…in regno Provinciæ in pago Aquense" to the monastery of Saint-Pierre de Psalmody by charter dated 999 which names "Emam uxorem eius et…filios eorum…Raimundum et Aialricum et Pontium et Bertrannum"[347]. These two charters show that Emma was married much earlier than is generally shown in secondary sources.


"Ema comitissa filia Rotboldi comitis et Hermengardæ uxoris eius, matris meæ" donated property "ex hereditate…in comitatu Forojuliensi in castro…Favart" to the priory of Courrenz (in Provence) by charter dated 22 Apr 1015, signed by "Ema comitissa, Heldebertus de Castro-Rainaldo"[348]. "Emma comitissa et filius meus Pontius" donated property to Saint-André d´Avignon by charter dated Nov 1024[349]. "Wilelmus comes Tolosanus et uxor mea Ema" donated property to Saint-Victor de Marseille by charter dated 1024[350]. "Emma comitissa et filius meus Pontius" donated property in Avignon to "ecclesiæ sancti Martini in monte Andaone" by undated charter[351].


Comte Guillaume III & his [first/second] wife had two children:


1. RAYMOND ([990/95]-before Nov 1024). The Liber miraculorum Sanctæ Fidæ, as quoted in translation in the Histoire Générale de Languedoc, records that Arsende, first wife of Comte Guillaume, "accoucha successivement de deux fils…Raimond et…Henri" after her return from visiting the saint[352]. "Wilelmus comes Tholose" donated "villam…Pertusus…in regno Provinciæ in pago Aquense" to the monastery of Saint-Pierre de Psalmody by charter dated 999 which names "Emam uxorem eius et…filios eorum…Raimundum et Aialricum et Pontium et Bertrannum"[353].


These two sources are contradictory concerning the identity of the mother of Comte Guillaume´s two older children. Raymond presumably died before the charter dated Nov 1024 in which Emma names her son Pons (see below).


2. AIALRIC [Henri?] ([993/96]-before Nov 1024). The Liber miraculorum Sanctæ Fidæ, as quoted in translation in the Histoire Générale de Languedoc, records that Arsende, first wife of Comte Guillaume, "accoucha successivement de deux fils…Raimond et…Henri" after her return from visiting the saint[354]. "Wilelmus comes Tholose" donated "villam…Pertusus…in regno Provinciæ in pago Aquense" to the monastery of Saint-Pierre de Psalmody by charter dated 999 which names "Emam uxorem eius et…filios eorum…Raimundum et Aialricum et Pontium et Bertrannum"[355].


These two sources are contradictory concerning the identity of the mother of Comte Guillaume´s two older children. This son presumably died before the charter dated Nov 1024 in which Emma names her son Pons (see below).


Comte Guillaume III & his second wife had two children:


3. PONS GUILLAUME ([995/97]-1060, bur Toulouse, Saint-Sernin). "Wilelmus comes Tholose" donated "villam…Pertusus…in regno Provinciæ in pago Aquense" to the monastery of Saint-Pierre de Psalmody by charter dated 999 which names "Emam uxorem eius et…filios eorum…Raimundum et Aialricum et Pontium et Bertrannum"[356]. He succeeded his father in 1037 as PONS Comte de Toulouse.


4. BERTRAND ([997/98]-after 23 Apr 1040, [bur Toulouse, Saint-Sernin]). "Wilelmus comes Tholose" donated "villam…Pertusus…in regno Provinciæ in pago Aquense" to the monastery of Saint-Pierre de Psalmody by charter dated 999 (although the date appears impossible) which names "Emam uxorem eius et…filios eorum…Raimundum et Aialricum et Pontium et Bertrannum"[357]. "Willelmus comes Provincie et uxor mea…Lucia" donated property to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated 1030, signed by "Poncius comes, filius Tolosani, Bertrannus frater eius"[358]. The Histoire Générale de Languedoc states that Bouche claimed that Bertrand, son of Comte Guillaume III, inherited Forcalquier from his mother and that he was ancestor of the later comtes de Forcalquier, but adds that this hypothesis was refuted by Ruffi[359]. "Willelmo patri suo, Bertramno…" subscribed the charter dated 14 Sep 1037 under which "Poncius" donated property to "sponse mee Maiore" at the time of their marriage[360]. "Bertrannus comes" donated property "in comitatu Avenionensi in villis Laurata et Grevesone…in comitatu Arausico…in comitatu Cavilico in villa Avellanico…in comitatu Aquense in villa Pertuso…in comitatu Tolonense in villa Gerildæ…in villa Albinoseo…partem meam in castello novo quod Gualterius construxit" to Monmajour by charter dated 23 Apr 1040[361]. [m ---. The name of Bertrand´s wife is not known. Bertrand & his wife had one child].


Comte Guillaume III had one [illegitimate] child by [an unknown mistress]:


5. [EMMA] ([1010/30]-). The Vita Sancti Bertrandi names "Ato Raymundus…oriundus e castello Ictio…castrum…Insula" and "filia…Vileumi comitis Tholosæ…cognomine…Scindens-ferrum" as the parents of "Bertrandus"[365]. The Histoire Générale de Languedoc suggests that this daughter was born either from Comte Guillaume´s first or second marriage[366]. However, her son Bertrand was installed as bishop of Comminges in [1073] and died in 1123. This is unlikely to place his birth much earlier than [1140/50]. If that is correct, his mother would have been born in [1010/30]. This would be much later than Comte Guillaume´s other known children by his second marriage. If she was indeed Comte Guillaume´s daughter, it seems more likely that she was illegitimate. She is named "Emme de Toulouse" by Père Anselme[367]. According to the Histoire Générale de Languedoc, this is the only supposed reference to her name, which is in fact not known[368]. According to another volume in the same series, she was named "Gervaise" and the daughter of "Raimond-Taillefer comte de Toulouse" (no primary source reference cited)[369]. It is not known to whom "Raimond-Taillefer comte de Toulouse" may refer, but it would be chronologically impossible for Odon Raymond´s wife to have been the daughter of Raymond IV Comte de Toulouse. m ([1030/50]) ODON RAYMOND Seigneur de l'Isle-Jourdain, son of ---. -------------------------- From the English Wikipedia page on William III, Count of Toulouse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III,_Count_of_Toulouse


William III Taillefer (also spelled Tallefer or Tallifer; 975 – September 1037) was the Count of Toulouse, Albi, and Quercy from 972 or 978 to his death. He was the first of the Toulousain branch of his family to bear the title marchio, which he inherited (c.975) from Raymond II of Rouergue.


His parentage has been subject to reevaluation. He has traditionally been called son of Raymond III Pons and Garsinda.[1] However, recent research has revealed that William was instead son of Adelais of Anjou, known to have married a Raymond, "Prince of Gothia". This discovery has required a complete reevaluation of the succession to the County of Toulouse during this period, and no scholarly consensus has developed.[2]


He and his vassals were notorious usurpers of church property. He stole from the abbey of Lézat, but gave it back between 1015 and 1025. Pope John XIX ordered him to stop his vassals from taking the lands of Moissac, a problem later remedied by his successor, Pons, who gave Moissac to Cluny.


William became the most powerful prince in western Languedoc and he saw the rise of the House of Capet in France and a corresponding decrease in royal authority recognised in the south. He bore the title of marchio prefatus in pago Tholosano: "prefect margrave in the Toulousain country." His influence extended into the Narbonensis and even Provence, on behalf of his wife. His power did not remain undiminished in his own city of Toulouse, where he was forced by a council of local noblemen and clerics to give up dues imposed on the market there.


Before 992, William married Emma, daughter of Rotbold III of Provence. From her he gained titles and lands to Provence. From a prior marriage, he had two sons, Raymond and Hugh, who died young. His eldest son by Emma, Pons, inherited Toulouse and the title of Margrave of Provence. His second son Bertrand became Count of Forcalquier, a Provençal fief. He had two daughters: Rangarda, wife of Peter Raymond of Carcassonne by Emma, and Ildegarda Elisa, wife of Fulk Bertrand of Provence by Emma. He had an illegitimate daughter that married Otto Raymond of L'Isle-Jourdain.


Notes


1. ^ e.g., Lewis, p 341.


2. ^ Some historians have suggested a single additional generation (referred to as Raymond III of Toulouse, his father Raymond Pons being stripped of an ordinal), while others follow the Codice de Roda in giving Raymond Pons a son Raymond who in turn had sons Hugh and Raymond. Identifying the last with the husband of Adelais inserts two generations, making William the great-grandson of Raymond Pons. Yet another reconstruction suggests that Raymond and Garsinda died childless, and that Toulouse passed to kinsman Raymond II of Rouergue, from whom the husband of Adelais would descend. See Martin de Framond, "La succession des comtes de Toulouse autour de l'an mil(940--1030): reconsidérations", Annales du Midi 204 (1993), pp 461--488; Thierry Stasser, "Adélaïde d'Anjou. Sa famille, ses mariages, sa descendance", Le Moyen Age 103,1 (1997): 9-52; FMG for different reconstructions.


Sources


Lewis, Archibald R. The Development of Southern French and Catalan Society, 718–1050. University of Texas Press: Austin, 1965.


Foundation for Medieval Genealogy: Toulouse. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE.htm


Thierry Stasser, "Adélaïde d'Anjou. Sa famille, ses mariages, sa descendance", Le Moyen Age 103,1 (1997): 9-52


From Darryl Lundy's Peerage page on Guillaume III Taillefer: http://www.thepeerage.com/p11358.htm#i113577

Guillaume III Taillefer, Comte de Provence1 M, #113577, b. circa 947, d. September 1037


Last Edited=11 Jul 2005


Guillaume III Taillefer, Comte de Provence was born circa 947. He is the son of Raimond III Pons, Comte de Toulouse and Gersende (?).


He married, firstly, Adelaide d'Anjou, daughter of Fulk II d'Anjou, Comte d'Anjou and Gerberge de Tours. He married, secondly, Emma of Venaissin, daughter of Rotbold of Venaissin, Count of Venaissin and Ermengarde (?), circa 990.


He died in September 1037.


Guillaume III Taillefer, Comte de Provence succeeded to the title of Comte de Provence. He succeeded to the title of Comte de Toulouse in 960.[2]


Child of Guillaume III Taillefer, Comte de Provence and Adelaide d'Anjou:


1. Constance d'Arles+1 b. c 973, d. 25 Jul 1032


Child of Guillaume III Taillefer, Comte de Provence and Emma of Venaissin:


2. Pons, Comte de Toulouse+[3] b. c 990, d. c 1061


Citations


1. [S16] Jirí Louda and Michael MacLagan, Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe, 2nd edition (London, U.K.: Little, Brown and Company, 1999), table 64. Hereinafter cited as Lines of Succession.


2. [S45] Marcellus Donald R. von Redlich, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, volume I (1941; reprint, Baltimore, Maryland, U.S.A.: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2002), page 63. Hereinafter cited as Pedigrees of Emperor Charlemagne, I.


3. [S38] John Morby, Dynasties of the World: a chronological and genealogical handbook (Oxford, Oxfordshire, U.K.: Oxford University Press, 1989), page 88. Hereinafter cited as Dynasties of the World.


William III Taillefer (also spelled Tallefer or Tallifer; 975 – September 1037) was the Count of Toulouse, Albi, and Quercy from 972 or 978 to his death. He was the first of the Toulousain branch of his family to bear the title marchio, which he inherited (c.975) from Raymond II of Rouergue.

His parentage has been subject to reevaluation. He has traditionally been called son of Raymond Pons and Garsinda.[1] However, recent research has revealed that several historical Counts of Toulouse have been overlooked, and that William was actually the son of Raymond III of Toulouse, whom he succeeded in 978, and Adelais of Anjou.[2]


He and his vassals were notorious usurpers of church property. He stole from the abbey of Lézat, but gave it back between 1015 and 1025. Pope John XIX ordered him to stop his vassals from taking the lands of Moissac, a problem later remedied by his successor, Pons, who gave Moissac to Cluny.


William became the most powerful prince in western Languedoc and he saw the rise of the House of Capet in France and a corresponding decrease in royal authority recognised in the south. He bore the title of marchio prefatus in pago Tholosano: "prefect margrave in the Toulousain country." His influence extended into the Narbonensis and even Provence, on behalf of his wife. His power did not remain undiminished in his own city of Toulouse, where he was forced by a council of local noblemen and clerics to give up dues imposed on the market there.


Before 992, William married Emma, daughter of Rotbold III of Provence. From her he gained titles and lands to Provence. From a prior marriage, he had two sons, Raymond and Hugh, who died young. His eldest son by Emma, Pons, , inherited Toulouse and the title of Margrave of Provence. His second son Bertrand became Count of Forcalquier, a Provençal fief. He had two daughters: Rangarda, wife of Peter Raymond of Carcassonne by Emma, and Ildegarda Elisa, wife of Fulk Bertrand of Provence by Emma. He had an illegitimate daughter that married Otto Raymond of L'Isle-Jourdain.


William III Taillefer (also spelled Tallefer or Tallifer; 975 – September 1037) was the Count of Toulouse, Albi, and Quercy from 972 or 978 to his death. He was the first of the Toulousain branch of his family to bear the title marchio, which he inherited (c.975) from Raymond II of Rouergue.

His parentage has been subject to reevaluation. He has traditionally been called son of Raymond Pons and Garsinda. However, recent research has revealed that several historical Counts of Toulouse have been overlooked, and that William was actually the son of Raymond III of Toulouse, whom he succeeded in 978, and Adelais of Anjou.


He and his vassals were notorious usurpers of church property. He stole from the abbey of Lézat, but gave it back between 1015 and 1025. Pope John XIX ordered him to stop his vassals from taking the lands of Moissac, a problem later remedied by his successor, Pons, who gave Moissac to Cluny.


William became the most powerful prince in western Languedoc and he saw the rise of the House of Capet in France and a corresponding decrease in royal authority recognised in the south. He bore the title of marchio prefatus in pago Tholosano: "prefect margrave in the Toulousain country." His influence extended into the Narbonensis and even Provence, on behalf of his wife. His power did not remain undiminished in his own city of Toulouse, where he was forced by a council of local noblemen and clerics to give up dues imposed on the market there.


Before 992, William married Emma, daughter of Rotbold III of Provence. From her he gained titles and lands to Provence. From a prior marriage, he had two sons, Raymond and Hugh, who died young. His eldest son by Emma, Pons, , inherited Toulouse and the title of Margrave of Provence. His second son Bertrand became Count of Forcalquier, a Provençal fief. He had two daughters: Rangarda, wife of Peter Raymond of Carcassonne by Emma, and Ildegarda Elisa, wife of Fulk Bertrand of Provence by Emma. He had an illegitimate daughter that married Otto Raymond of L'Isle-Jourdain.


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Ponce II William of Toulouse (de Toulouse), count of Toulouse MP 

Italian: Ponce II Guglielmo di Tolosa, conte di Tolosa, Catalan: Ponce II Guillem de Tolosa, comte de Tolosa, French: Pons II Guillaume de Toulouse, comte de Toulouse

Gender: Male

Birth: between circa 995 and circa 997

Death: 1060 (58-70)

Place of Burial: Saint-Sernin, Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, Midi-Pyrénées, France

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Son of Guillaume III Taillefer, comte de Toulouse and Emma

Husband of Almodis de La Marche, countess consort of Toulouse & Barcelona, dame of Lusignan and Major de Navarre, comtesse consort de Toulouse

Father of Almodis de Toulouse, Comtesse Consort de Melgueil; Hugues de Toulouse, abbé de Cluny; Guillaume IV comte de Toulouse; Raymond IV, comte de Toulouse; Pons the Younger and 1 other

Brother of Rangarda de Toulouse, comtesse consort de Carcassonne

Half brother of Raymond; Aialric; Constance De Toulouse and Emma 


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Pons II William is the son of William III Taillefer, 975-1037 (not William II the Liberator), and Emma of Provence, c.995-1062. He's the father of William IV and Raymond IV, with Almodis de la Marche.


PONS GUILLAUME de Toulouse, son of GUILLAUME III "Taillefer" Comte de Toulouse & his second wife Emma de Provence ([995/97]-1060, bur Toulouse, Saint-Sernin). "Wilelmus comes Tholose" donated "villam…Pertusus…in regno Provinciæ in pago Aquense" to the monastery of Saint-Pierre de Psalmody by charter dated 999 which names "Emam uxorem eius et…filios eorum…Raimundum et Aialricum et Pontium et Bertrannum"[370]. "Emma comitissa et filius meus Pontius" donated property to Saint-André d´Avignon by charter dated Nov 1024[371]. "Willelmus comes Provincie et uxor mea…Lucia" donated property to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated 1030, signed by "Poncius comes, filius Tolosani, Bertrannus frater eius"[372]. He succeeded his father in 1037 as PONS Comte de Toulouse. "Poncius comes Tolosanus" founded the priory of Vigan, with the support of "Bertrannus Heleziars et Ava uxor eius…", by charter dated to [1050] and reproduced in a charter dated 12 Jan 1261[373]. "Poncius Tolosanus urbis comes" recorded the union of the abbey of Moissac with the abbey of Cluny, with the advice of "uxoris meæ Adalmodis comitissæ", by charter dated 29 Jun 1053[374]. The dating clause of a charter dated 1060 refers to "Tolosanorum Pontio palatino comite"[375].


m firstly (before 14 Sep 1037) MAYOR, daughter of --- (-1044 or before). "Poncius" donated property to "sponse mee Maiore" at the time of their marriage by charter dated 14 Sep 1037, signed by "Willelmo patri suo, Bertramno…"[376]. Pérez de Urbel[377] suggests that the name "Majorie" (by which she is known in French sources) is similar to "Mayor" which may indicate a connection with Castile or Navarre. He proposes that she was Mayor Sánchez de Navarra, daughter of Sancho III King of Navarre & his wife Munidomna Mayor de Castilla . If this is correct, Mayor would have been a child at the time of her marriage, assuming that this did indeed take place in [1022]. Although this origin is not impossible, it does seem unlikely that such a prominent origin of the wife of Comte Pons should not have been recorded in contemporary sources.


m secondly ([1045] repudiated 1053 after 29 Jun) as her second husband, ALMODIS de la Marche, repudiated wife of HUGUES V "le Pieux" Sire de Lusignan, daughter of BERNARD I Comte de la Marche & his wife Amelia --- (-murdered 1071). The Chronicle of Saint-Maxence records the marriage of "Almodim…sororem Audeberti comitis de Marcha" and "Pontius comes Tolosanus", specifying that she was previously the wife of "Hugo Pius de Liziniaco" from whom she was separated for consanguinity and that afterwards she married "Raimundo Barcinonensi"[378]. "Poncius Tolosanus urbis comes" recorded the union of the abbey of Moissac with the abbey of Cluny, with the advice of "uxoris meæ Adalmodis comitissæ", by charter dated 29 Jun 1053[379]. She married thirdly (1053 after 29 Jun) Ramón Berenguer "el Viejo" Conde de Barcelona. She was murdered by her stepson Pedro Ramón de Barcelona.


[m thirdly as her first husband, Infanta doña SANCHA de Aragón, daughter of don RAMIRO I King of Aragon & his first wife Gilberga [Hermesenda] de Cousserans (-[5 Apr/16 Aug] 1097, bur Monastery of Santa Cruz, transferred 1622 to Benedictine convent of Jaca[380]). The Crónica de San Juan de la Peña names "Sancha…et…Teresa" as the two daughters of King Ramiro and his wife "la filla del Comte de Bigorra nombrada Hermissenda et por baptismo Gelberda", stating that Sancha married "al Comte de Tolosa"[381]. This marriage has not been confirmed by other primary sources. The Crónica is an unreliable source regarding many genealogical details and it is suggested the marriage be treated with caution until it can be corroborated elsewhere.]


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Pons (II) William (abt 1020 – 1060) was the Count of Toulouse from 1037. He was the eldest son and successor of William III Taillefer and Emma of Provence. He thus inherited the title marchio Provincae. He is known to have owned many allods and he relied on Roman, Salic, and Gothic law.


Already in 1030, he possessed a lot of power in the Albigeois. In 1037, he gave many allodial churches and castles, including one half of that of Porta Spina, in the Albigeois, Nimois, and Provence as a bridal gift to his wife Majore.


In 1038, he split the purchase of the Diocese of Albi with the Trencavel family. In 1040, he donated property in Diens to Cluny. In 1047, he first appears as count palatine in a charter donating Moissac to Cluny.


Pons married first wife, Majore, in 1022. She died in 1044. In 1045, he married, Almodis de La Marche, former wife of Hugh V of Lusignan, but he too repudiated her in 1053. His only child by Majore, Pons the Younger, did not inherit his county and march. His eldest sons by Almodis, William IV and Raymond IV, originally just count of Saint-Gilles, succeeded him in turn. His son Hugh became abbot of Saint-Gilles. He had one daughter, Almodis, who married the count of Melgueil.


Pons died in Toulouse and was buried in Saint-Sernin, probably late in 1060 or early in 1061.


Pons (II) William[1] (abt 1020 – 1060) was the Count of Toulouse from 1037. He was the eldest son and successor of William III Taillefer and Emma of Provence. He thus inherited the title marchio Provincæ. He is known to have owned many allods and he relied on Roman, Salic, and Gothic law.


Already in 1030, he possessed a lot of power in the Albigeois. In 1037, he gave many allodial churches and castles, including one half of that of Porta Spina, in the Albigeois, Nimois, and Provence as a bridal gift to his wife Majore.


In 1038, he split the purchase of the Diocese of Albi with the Trencavel family. In 1040, he donated property in Diens to Cluny. In 1047, he first appears as count palatine in a charter donating Moissac to Cluny.


Pons married first wife, Majore, in 1022. She died in 1044. In 1045, he married, Almodis de La Marche, former wife of Hugh V of Lusignan, but he too repudiated her in 1053. His only child by Majore, Pons the Younger, did not inherit his county and march. His eldest sons by Almodis, William IV and Raymond IV, originally just count of Saint-Gilles, succeeded him in turn. His son Hugh became abbot of Saint-Gilles. He had one daughter, Almodis, who married the Count of Melgueil.


Pons died in Toulouse and was buried in Saint-Sernin, probably late in 1060 or early in 1061.


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^ Raymond Pons was "Pons I." In Latin it is Pontius or Poncius and Ponce in Spanish.


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Pons (II) William[1] (abt 1020 – 1060) was the Count of Toulouse from 1037. He was the eldest son and successor of William III Taillefer and Emma of Provence. He thus inherited the title marchio Provincæ. He is known to have owned many allods and he relied on Roman, Salic, and Gothic law.


Already in 1030, he possessed a lot of power in the Albigeois. In 1037, he gave many allodial churches and castles, including one half of that of Porta Spina, in the Albigeois, Nimois, and Provence as a bridal gift to his wife Majore.


In 1038, he split the purchase of the Diocese of Albi with the Trencavel family. In 1040, he donated property in Diens to Cluny. In 1047, he first appears as count palatine in a charter donating Moissac to Cluny.


Pons married first wife, Majore, in 1022. She died in 1044. In 1045, he married, Almodis de La Marche, former wife of Hugh V of Lusignan, but he too repudiated her in 1053. His only child by Majore, Pons the Younger, did not inherit his county and march. His eldest sons by Almodis, William IV and Raymond IV, originally just count of Saint-Gilles, succeeded him in turn. His son Hugh became abbot of Saint-Gilles. He had one daughter, Almodis, who married the Count of Melgueil.


Pons died in Toulouse and was buried in Saint-Sernin, probably late in 1060 or early in 1061.


[edit]Notes


^ Raymond Pons was "Pons I." In Latin it is Pontius or Poncius and Ponce in Spanish.


Pons (II) William (abt 1020 – 1060) was the Count of Toulouse from 1037. He was the eldest son and successor of William III Taillefer and Emma of Provence. He thus inherited the title marchio Provincae. He is known to have owned many allods and he relied on Roman, Salic, and Gothic law.


Already in 1030, he possessed a lot of power in the Albigeois. In 1037, he gave many allodial churches and castles, including one half of that of Porta Spina, in the Albigeois, Nimois, and Provence as a bridal gift to his wife Majore.


In 1038, he split the purchase of the Diocese of Albi with the Trencavel family. In 1040, he donated property in Diens to Cluny. In 1047, he first appears as count palatine in a charter donating Moissac to Cluny.


Pons married first wife, Majore, in 1022. She died in 1044. In 1045, he married, Almodis de La Marche, former wife of Hugh V of Lusignan, but he too repudiated her in 1053. His only child by Majore, Pons the Younger, did not inherit his county and march. His eldest sons by Almodis, William IV and Raymond IV, originally just count of Saint-Gilles, succeeded him in turn. His son Hugh became abbot of Saint-Gilles. He had one daughter, Almodis, who married the count of Melgueil.


Pons died in Toulouse and was buried in Saint-Sernin, probably late in 1060 or early in 1061.


Pons (II) William (abt 1020 – 1060) was the Count of Toulouse from 1037. He was the eldest son and successor of William III Taillefer and Emma of Provence. He thus inherited the title marchio Provincae. He is known to have owned many allods and he relied on Roman, Salic, and Gothic law.

Already in 1030, he possessed a lot of power in the Albigeois. In 1037, he gave many allodial churches and castles, including one half of that of Porta Spina, in the Albigeois, Nimois, and Provence as a bridal gift to his wife Majore.


In 1038, he split the purchase of the Diocese of Albi with the Trencavel family. In 1040, he donated property in Diens to Cluny. In 1047, he first appears as count palatine in a charter donating Moissac to Cluny.


Pons married first wife, Majore, in 1022. She died in 1044. In 1045, he married, Almodis de La Marche, former wife of Hugh V of Lusignan, but he too repudiated her in 1053. His only child by Majore, Pons the Younger, did not inherit his county and march. His eldest sons by Almodis, William IV and Raymond IV, originally just count of Saint-Gilles, succeeded him in turn. His son Hugh became abbot of Saint-Gilles. He had one daughter, Almodis, who married the count of Melgueil.


Pons died in Toulouse and was buried in Saint-Sernin, probably late in 1060 or early in 1061.


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Pons II Guillaume, Comte de TOULOUSE, d'Albi et de Dijon Born: 990-991, Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, Midi-Pyrenees, France Married (1): Abt 1039 Married (2): 1022 Died: 1060-1061, St Sernin, Toulo, France


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Count of Toulouse from 1037. He was the eldest son and successor of William III Taillefer and Emma of Provence. He thus inherited the title marchio Provincae. He is known to have owned many allods and he relied on Roman, Salic, and Gothic law.

Already in 1030, he possessed a lot of power in the Albigeois. In 1037, he gave many allodial churches and castles, including one half of that of Porta Spina, in the Albigeois, Nimois, and Provence as a bridal gift to his wife Majore.


In 1038, he split the purchase of the Diocese of Albi with the Trencavel family. In 1040, he donated property in Diens to Cluny. In 1047, he first appears as count palatine in a charter donating Moissac to Cluny.


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Pons married Almodis de La MARCHE , daughter of Bernard I, Comte de La MARCHE and Amelie, about 1039. (Almodis de La MARCHE was born about 1015 in Marche, Creuse, Limousin, France and died on 16 Nov 1071.)

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Pons also married Majore in 1022. (Majore died in 1044.)

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Raymund IV 'de St. Gilles' de Tolosa, comte de Tolosa MP 

Spanish: Conde Raymond de TOULOUSE, IV (Comte) de TOULOUSE

Gender: Male

Birth: estimated between 1023 and 1083 

Death: February 28, 1105

Castle of Mount Pèlerin, Tripoli, Palestine (Palestine, State of)

Place of Burial: Mount Pèlerin, Jerusalem

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Son of Pons II Guillaume, comte de Toulouse and Almodis de La Marche, countess consort of Toulouse & Barcelona, dame of Lusignan

Husband of N.N. de Tolosa and Elvira Alfonso, condesa de Tolosa

Ex-husband of Mathilde (I) de Sicile

Father of Bertrand, comte de Toulouse; Alphonse I Jourdain, comte de Toulouse; Raymonde de Toulouse and Beltrán Raimúndez de Narbona, Señor de Benacazón y Benadrón

Brother of Almodis de Toulouse, Comtesse Consort de Melgueil; Hugues de Toulouse, abbé de Cluny and Guillaume IV comte de Toulouse

Half brother of Pons the Younger; William de Rouergue; Hugues VI "le Diable", seigneur de Lusignan; Mélisende de Lusignan; Jourdain de Lusignan and 6 others 


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Raymond IV was the son of Pons II William of Toulouse, c.1020-1060, and Almodis de la Marche, c.1020-1071. He was married to Unknown, Matilda of Sicily and Elvira of Castile. His older brother was William IV.


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RAYMOND de Toulouse, son of PONS Comte de Toulouse & his third wife Almodis de La Marche (-castle of Mount Pèlerin near Tripoli, Palestine 28 Feb 1105, bur Mount Pèlerin or Jerusalem). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Guilelmum et Raymundum" as the two sons of "Guilelmi…Tolose comitis" and his wife "Alymodis multinuba"[415]. "Wilelmo…Raimundo…Ugoni" are named as sons of "Pontio [comite Tolosano]" in a charter dated 9 Jun 1063[416]. Comte de Rouergue, de Nîmes et de Narbonne, presumably resulting from an agreement with his brother to partition their father's territories following his death in 1060. "Raimundum comitem de Rutenis, filium Almodis" and "Guifredum archiepiscopum de Narbona, filium Guille comitissæ" confirmed an agreement by charter dated to [1066], confirmed by "uxorem suam comitissam"[417]. "Raimundus comes Rutenensis et Nemosensis, Narbonensiumque filius meus" joined "Almodis comitissa" in a transaction with Cluny for the soul of "Poncii comitis" dated 15 Dec 1066[418]. "Raimundi comitis Rutenensis…" subscribed the charter dated 7 Sep 1071 which records an agreement between "Wuiellmum Tolosanum comitem" and "Raimundum comitem Barchinonensem et Carchanonensem et Raimundem filium eius" settling their dispute about "castello de Laurago" [Lauragais][419]. "Rogerius comes Fuxensis et coniux mea Sicardis comitissa" donated property to Saint-Pons de Thomières by charter dated to [1074], subscribed by "domni G. comitis Tolosani et domni Raymundi fratris eius comitis Ruthenæ"[420]. A charter dated 27 Jun 1078 records a hearing held by "Raymundo Ruthenensium comiti et Biterrensium vicecomitissæ Hermengardi" relating to a claim by "Petrus…Bermundi filius"[421]. "Guillelmus Tolonanensium, Albensium seu Caturcensium, Lutevensium, Petragorensium, Carcassonensium, Aginnensium necne Astarachensium comes et dux…cum uxore mea…Emma" confirmed donations by "proavuo…meo Pontio Aquitanorum duce" to Saint-Pons de Thomières by charter dated 16 Jun 1080, signed by "Regimundus comes frater eius, Bertrandus comes nepos Willelmi et filius Raimundi, Guillelmi de Rehenti, Ademari vicecomitis…"[422]. He took an active part in the crusade against the Moors in Spain. "Raymundus comes Rothenensis" abandoned rights in favour of the church of Béziers by charter dated 1084, signed by "…Guillelmi de Sabrano…"[423]. "Raymundus Ruthenensis, Gabalitanus, Ucetiensis, Nemausensis, Agathensis, Biterrensis necnon Narbonensis comes" confirmed the foundation of the abbey of Saint-Pons de Thomières by "proavo…meo Pontio Aquitanorum magno duce vel principe" by charter dated 1085[424]. He succeeded his brother in 1094 as RAYMOND IV "de Saint-Gilles" Comte de Toulouse. "Raimundus comes Tolosanæ, dux Narbonæ, marchio Provinciæ" donated property to Saint-André d´Avignon by charter dated 1088 (which presumably should be redated to after 1094), signed by "…Guillelmus de Sabrano, Alisiardus de Usetico, Rostagnus de Posqueriis, Gibellinus de Sabrano…"[425]. A bull of Pope Urban II dated 18 Feb 1095 announced that "Raimundus Tolosanus comes…cum uxore sua Hervira et filio Bertranno" abandoned his rights to altar offerings at the monastery of Saint-Gilles[426]. Presumably Comte Raymond's epithet "de Saint-Gilles" is attributable to his continuing public support for this monastery rather than use of a title such as "Comte de Saint-Gilles" before succeeding his brother in Toulouse. He was the first nobles to answer the call of Pope Urban IV for a crusade to relieve Jerusalem from occupation by the Muslim Arabs, asking to join the expedition 1 Dec 1095 only days after the Pope's rallying speech at the Council of Clermont. He succeeded as Marquis de Provence, no doubt after the death of Bernard [II] Comte de Provence in [1090/94] although the precise process by which this succession occurred has not yet been identified. "Raimundus…comes et Provincie marchio" donated property to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated 28 Jul 1094, also confirming donations by "Dulcis comitissa", signed by "Alvira comitissa"[427]. A bull of Pope Urban II dated 22 Jul 1096 confirmed the rights of the monastery of Saint-André near Avignon after its abandonment by "comes Nimirum Tholosanorum ac Ruthenensium et marchio Provintie Raimundus"[428]. In Jul 1096, Comte Raymond transferred many of his possessions to the monastery of Saint-Gilles[429]. He left on crusade in Oct 1096, leaving the government of Toulouse in the hands of his older son Bertrand (not named but referred to as "naturali cuidam filio suo comitatu quem regebat relicto")[430]. Comte Raymond never returned to France. While crossing Byzantine territory, his army attacked Roussa in Thrace, but was defeated and dispersed by the Imperial army[431]. He played a decisive role in the capture of Antioch 28 Jun 1098 after a siege lasting eight months. The leaders of the crusade disagreed about who should control Antioch. After Comte Raymond finally marched south in Jan 1099 to continue the crusade[432], Bohémond of Apulia remained in possession of Antioch. Comte Raymond tried unsuccessfully to be accepted as overall leader of the crusade, but in Jul 1099 refused to be considered as a candidate to be "King of Jerusalem" knowing that he did not have enough support among the crusaders[433]. After the election as leader of his rival Godefroi de Bouillon 22 Jul 1099, Comte Raymond left Jerusalem for Jericho[434]. His objective was to create his own principality in central Syria[435]. He established his household at Lattakia[436]. The second wave of the First Crusade, Lombards who had left Italy under Alberto Conte di Biandrate in Sep 1100 and the French under Etienne Comte de Bourgogne who left in Spring 1101, appointed Comte Raymond as their leader when they arrived at Constantinople, where he was staying during the winter of 1100/01 as the guest of Emperor Alexios I[437]. After the combined armies left Constantinople in May 1101, they captured Ankara from the Seljuk Turks 23 Jun 1101 but were scattered after their defeat by the Turks at Mersivan[438]. Comte Raymond returned to Constantinople, left by ship for Lattakia, but in early 1102 was arrested in Tarsus for having "betrayed Christendom" and taken to Tancred Regent of Antioch who released him only after he swore an oath not to interfere further in affairs in Syria, In compliance, he evacuated his garrison from Lattakieh, which was besieged by Tancred in early Spring 1102[439]. He gained a notable victory against the Turks outside Tripoli in 1102, constructed the castle of Mount Pèlerin near Tripoli in 1103/04, and laid siege to the town itself. He died during the course of the siege[440], his death being recorded by William of Tyre[441]. Albert of Aix records that "comes Reimundus" died at "Mons Peregrinorum", which he had built, in February "post Purificationem sanctæ Mariæ" and was buried there[442]. Bar Hebræus records the death in A.H. 499 (1105/06) of "Hisn Sandjil", ten days after falling from a roof which had been set alight by "Abou-Ali Ibn Ammar, souverain de Tripoli", and his burial in Jerusalem[443].


m firstly ([1066] or before, [repudiated [1076/80]) ---. "Raimundum comitem de Rutenis, filium Almodis" and "Guifredum archiepiscopum de Narbona, filium Guille comitissæ" confirmed an agreement by charter dated to [1066], confirmed by "uxorem suam comitissam"[444]. The name of Raymond´s first wife is not known. It is assumed that the marriage was terminated, maybe for consanguinity, which could explain the doubts expressed in the sources quoted below about the legitimacy of Raymond´s son Bertrand, who is assumed to have been born from this first marriage. The Histoire Générale de Languedoc suggests that this wife was Raymond´s first cousin, the daughter of his paternal uncle Bertrand, suggesting that Raymond naming his first son Bertrand would then have been consistent with the contemporary convention of using the name of one of the child´s grandfathers for the first-born son[445]. The same source suggests that such a marriage could explain why Raymond was excommunicated by Pope Gregory VII in 1076 and 1078. It also suggests that Comte Raymond´s right to the marquisate of Provence may have been based on the dowry of his first marriage. This may explain why Europäische Stammtafeln and other primary sources show Raymond´s first wife as --- de Provence, daughter of Geoffroy I Marquis de Provence, Comte d'Arles & his wife Etiennette [Douce] [de Marseille]. However, Raymond´s right could also have been hereditary through his paternal grandmother, who was the sister of Guillaume [V] Comte et Marquis de Provence.


m secondly ([1080], divorced [1088]) as her second husband, MATHILDE of Sicily, repudiated wife of ROBERT Comte d'Eu, daughter of ROGER I Count of Sicily & his first wife Judith d'Evreux (1062-before 1094). Malaterra records the marriage of "Raimundus comes Provinciarum" and "Matildem filiam suam [Rogerii Siculorum comitis]…de prima uxore" which he dates to 1080[446]. According to Houben[447], Mathilde who married Robert Comte d'Eu was the daughter of Roger I Count of Sicily by his second wife, and a different person from Mathilde wife of Raymond de Toulouse. No source is quoted, but this seems unlikely from a chronological point of view as Roger's second marriage took place in [1077], and Robert Comte d'Eu died in [1089/93]. In addition, it seems unlikely that Roger, at the height of his power as count of Sicily in the late 1080s, would have agreed to his daughter's marriage to an obscure count in northern France while he was arranging royal marriages for his other daughters.


m thirdly (1094) as her first husband, doña ELVIRA Alfonso, illegitimate daughter of don ALFONSO VI King of Castile and León & his mistress doña Jimena Muñoz (-after 19 Jun [1156]). The Chronicon Regum Legionensium names "Jimena Muñoz" as the first of two concubines of King Alfonso, and their daughters "Elvira the wife of count Raymond of Toulouse…and Teresa the wife of Count Henry"[448]. "Raimundus…comes et Provincie marchio" donated property to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated 28 Jul 1094, also confirming donations by "Dulcis comitissa", signed by "Alvira comitissa"[449]. The bull of Pope Urban II dated 18 Feb 1095 announces that "Raimundus Tolosanus comes…cum uxore sua Hervira et filio Bertranno" abandoned his rights to altar offerings at the monastery of Saint-Gilles[450]. Her birth date is estimated from the birth of her first child "before 1097". The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. According to Guibert, Comte Raymond left on the First Crusade with his wife and son (both unnamed) "Qui quidem, naturali cuidam filio suo comitatu quem regebat relicto, propriam conjugem cum filio, quem ab ea exegerat, unico secum duxit"[451]. She left Palestine after her husband's death, arriving back in Toulouse with her infant son in 1108[452]. She married secondly (before 8 Jul 1117, separated before 1121) as his first wife, don Fernando Fernández. Her second marriage is deduced from the charter dated 8 Jul 1117 under which "Fernanz Fernanniz…et uxor mea infanta donna Gelvira filia regis Alfonsi" donated "quartem partem de monasterio de Ferreries…in Gallicia in terra de Lemes juxta Pantonem" to Cluny[453]. It is also indicated by the charter dated 18 Apr 1127 under which her mother "Ximena Munniz" donated property in "Trebalio et Turres" to "nepotis mei…Garcie Fernandiz"[454], and also by the charter dated 1201 under which her great-granddaughter "Domna Xemena Osoriz" donated her property in Valdejunco, Valdunquillo, Villa Velasco, Fontamian, Villa Sanz, Carvajal, Villela, Otero, Mozos, Valdescapa, Barriales, Valle Vaniego, Ranero and in tierra de Cea to Sahagún monastery, naming "aviam tuam Infantem Gelviram"[455], although the second document does not clarify which of the two "Infantas Elvira" is referred to. On the other hand, Reilly[456] says that doña Elvira, wife of Raymond IV Comte de Toulouse, did not return to Castile until after the death of Queen Urraca. He maintains that the wife of don Fernando Fernández was Elvira who was the legitimate daughter of King Alfonso VI by his wife "Elisabeth". As discussed in the document CASTILE KINGS, it is more likely that the younger legitimate daughter Elvira was the wife of Roger King of Sicily. Canal Sánchez-Pangín[457] concludes that the wife of don Fernando Fernández was indeed the widow of Raymond IV Comte de Toulouse. One difficulty is that Alphonse Comte de Toulouse, son of Comte Raymond IV and doña Elvira, was declared of age only in 1121, although it is not known whether his mother remained in Toulouse acting as regent throughout his minority. . The dating clauses of charters dated 24 Oct 1137, 1 Nov 1137, 20 Nov 1137, 6 Nov 1139, 1 Oct 1143, 1 Nov 1149, 6 Jun [1153], and 19 Jun [1156], which record donations to the monastery of San Pedro de Montes, name "…Imperante Ribera donna Gelvira Infante"[458]. "Infante dompna Gelvira…domini Adefonsi regis filia" donated "in territorio de Ripeira…villa de Nozeta" to the monastery of San Pedro de Montes, confirmed by "Didacus Fernandiz…quod…mater mea prefata infante domina Gelvira facit" and by "Adefonsus…Yspanie imperator…mater tere mee et filiorum eius…infans domina Sancia soror ipsius imperatoris", by charter dated 29 Apr 1150, subscribed by "Poncius comes…Osorius Martiniz comes…Nunno Petriz armiger regis…Vela Guterriz dominante Capreyra, Petro Roderiquiz, Roderico Roderiquiz, Petro Didaz…"[459].


Comte Raymond IV & his first wife had one child:


1. BERTRAND de Toulouse ([1065]-in Palestine 21 Apr 1112). "Guillelmus Tolonanensium, Albensium seu Caturcensium, Lutevensium, Petragorensium, Carcassonensium, Aginnensium necne Astarachensium comes et dux…cum uxore mea…Emma" confirmed donations by "proavuo…meo Pontio Aquitanorum duce" to Saint-Pons de Thomières by charter dated 16 Jun 1080, signed by "Regimundus comes frater eius, Bertrandus comes nepos Willelmi et filius Raimundi, Guillelmi de Rehenti, Ademari vicecomitis…"[460]. Other sources suggest doubt regarding Bertrand's legitimacy. Caffaro names "Beltramo Çauata…bastardus comitis Raymundi comitis sancti Egidii" when recording that he captured Tripoli[461]. Guibert records that, in Oct 1096, his father left the government of Toulouse in the hands of "naturali cuidam filio suo comitatu quem regebat relicto" when he left on the First Crusade[462]. As suggested above, these problems could best be explained if Cotme Raymond was separated from his first wife, mother of Bertrand, on grounds of consanguinity, which may have affected some contemporary views about the legitimacy of their offspring. He succeeded his father in 1105 as BERTRAND Comte de Toulouse. A series of bulls of Pope Pascal II dated between 15 Apr 1105 and 14 May 1108 reveal that "Bertrannus comes" failed to respect his father's abandonment of rights concerning the altar offerings at the monastery of Saint-Gilles, that he was excommunicated, recanted but attacked the monastery again[463]. After the arrival in Toulouse of his step-mother and infant half-brother, Bertrand left for Palestine in Summer 1108, and swore fidelity to Emperor Alexis I at Constantinople. Albert of Aix records that "Bertrannus filius comitis Reimundi" arrived in Tortosa in March, dated to 1109 from the context, and demanded the territories formerly held by his father[464]. At a council of crusader rulers outside Tripoli in Jun 1109, it was decided that Bertrand should receive Jebail, and Tripoli once it was captured, under the suzerainty of Baudouin I King of Jerusalem, while Guillem Jordan retained Tortosa and Arqa. On the death of either, the other would inherit his lands[465]. Tripoli finally surrendered 12 Jul 1109, and he was installed as BERTRAND Count of Tripoli. Jebail was given to Ugo Embriaco, the Genoese admiral who had helped Bertrand[466]. Comte Bertrand inherited Tortosa and Arqa on the death of Guillem Jordan shortly after[467]. "Bertrandus…comes Raimundi Sancti Egidii filius" donated property for the soul of "Guillelmi Iordanis consanguinei mei" to the church of the Holy Sepulchre, Jerusalem with the consent of "Poncio filio suo", by undated charter[468].


Raymond IV of Toulouse sometimes called Raymond of St Gilles (c. 1041 or 1042 – 1105) was Count of Toulouse, Duke of Narbonne, and Margrave of Provence and one of the leaders of the First Crusade. He was a son of Pons of Toulouse and Almodis de La Marche. He received Saint-Gilles with the title of "count" from his father and succeeded his brother William IV in Toulouse in 1094.


According to an Armenian source, he had lost an eye on a pilgrimage to Jerusalem before the First Crusade, but this statement probably refers to the fact that he was one-eyed (monoculus). He also fought against the Moors in Spain before 1096, and he was the first to join the crusade after Pope Urban II's sermon at the Council of Clermont.


Early years


In 1094, William Bertrand of Provence died and his margravial title to Provence passed to Raymond. A bull of Urban's dated 22 July 1096 names Raymond comes Nimirum Tholosanorum ac Ruthenensium et marchio Provintie Raimundus.


The Crusader


Raymond was deeply religious, and wished to die in the Holy Land, and so when the call was raised for the First Crusade, he was one of the first to take the cross. The oldest and the richest of the crusaders, Raymond left Toulouse at the end of October 1096, with a large company that included his wife Elvira, his infant son (who would die on the journey) and Adhemar, bishop of Le Puy, the papal legate. He ignored requests by his niece, Philippa (the rightful heiress to Toulouse) to grant the rule of Toulouse to her in his stead; instead, he left Bertrand, his eldest son, to govern. He marched to Dyrrhachium, and then east to Constantinople along the same route used by Bohemond of Taranto. At the end of April, 1097, he was the only crusade leader not to swear an oath of fealty to Byzantine emperor Alexius I. Instead, Raymond swore an oath of friendship, and offered his support against Bohemond, mutual enemy of both Raymond and Alexius.


He was present at the siege of Nicaea and the Battle of Dorylaeum in 1097, but his first major role came in October of 1097 at the siege of Antioch. The crusaders heard a rumour that Antioch had been deserted by the Seljuk Turks, so Raymond sent his army ahead to occupy it, offending Bohemond of Taranto who wanted the city for himself. The city was, however, still occupied, and was taken by the crusaders only after a difficult siege in June of 1098. Raymond took the palatium Cassiani (the palace of the emir, Yaghi-Siyan) and the tower over the Bridge Gate. He was ill during the second siege of Antioch by Kerbogha which culminated in the discovery of the Holy Lance by a monk named Peter Bartholomew.


The "miracle" raised the morale of the crusaders, and to their surprise they were able to rout Kerbogha outside Antioch. The Lance itself became a valuable relic among Raymond's followers, despite Adhemar of Le Puy's skepticism and Bohemond's disbelief and occasional mockery. Raymond also refused to relinquish his control of the city to Bohemond, reminding Bohemond that he was obligated to return to Antioch and the court of Emperor Alexius, as he had sworn to do. A struggle then arose between Raymond's supporters and the supporters of Bohemond, partly over the genuineness of the Lance, but mostly over the possession of Antioch.


Extending his territorial reach


Many of the minor knights and foot soldiers preferred to continue their march to Jerusalem, and they convinced Raymond to lead them there in the autumn of 1098. Raymond led them out to besiege Ma'arrat al-Numan, although he left a small detachment of his troops in Antioch, where Bohemond also remained. As Adhemar had died in Antioch, Raymond, along with the prestige given to him by the Holy Lance, became the new leader of the crusade. Bohemond however, expelled Raymond's detachment from Antioch in January of 1099. Raymond then began to search for a city of his own. He marched from Ma'arrat, which had been captured in December of 1098, into the emirate of Tripoli, and began the siege of Arqa on February 14, 1099, apparently with the intent of founding an independent territory in Tripoli that could limit the power of Bohemond to expand the Principality of Antioch to the south.


The siege of Arqa, a town outside Tripoli, lasted longer than Raymond had hoped. Although he successfully captured Hisn al-Akrad, a fortress that would later become the important Krak des Chevaliers, his insistence on taking Tripoli delayed the march to Jerusalem, and he lost much of the support he had gained after Antioch. Raymond finally agreed to continue the march to Jerusalem on May 13, and after months of siege the city was captured on July 15. Raymond was offered the crown of the new Kingdom of Jerusalem, but refused, as he was reluctant to rule in the city in which Jesus had suffered. He said that he shuddered to think of being called "King of Jerusalem". It is also likely that he wished to continue the siege of Tripoli rather than remain in Jerusalem. However, he was also reluctant to give up the Tower of David in Jerusalem, which he had taken after the fall of the city, and it was only with difficulty that Godfrey of Bouillon was able to take it from him.


Raymond participated in the battle of Ascalon soon after the capture of Jerusalem, during which an invading army from Egypt was defeated. However, Raymond wanted to occupy Ascalon himself rather than give it to Godfrey, and in the resulting dispute Ascalon remained unoccupied. It was not taken by the crusaders until 1153. Godfrey also blamed him for the failure of his army to capture Arsuf. When Raymond went north, in the winter of 1099-1100, his first act was one of hostility against Bohemond, capturing Laodicea from (Bohemond had himself recently taken it from Alexius). From Laodicea he went to Constantinople, where he allied with Alexius I, Bohemond's most powerful enemy. Bohemond was at the time attempting to expand Antioch into Byzantine territory, and blatantly refused to fulfill his oath to the Byzantine Empire.


Defeat


Raymond joined the minor and ultimately unsuccessful Crusade of 1101, where he was defeated at Mersivan in Anatolia. Raymond escaped and returned to Constantinople. In 1102 he travelled by sea from Constantinople to Antioch, where he was imprisoned by Tancred, regent of Antioch during the captivity of Bohemond, and was only dismissed after promising not to attempt any conquests in the country between Antioch and Acre. He immediately broke his promise, attacking and capturing Tartus, and began to build a castle on the Mons Peregrinus ("Pilgrim's Mountain") which would help in his siege of Tripoli. He was aided by Alexius I, who preferred a friendly state in Tripoli to balance the hostile state in Antioch.


Spouses and progeny


Raymond IV of Toulouse was married three times, and twice excommunicated for marrying within forbidden degrees of consanguinity. His first wife was his cousin, and the mother of his son Bertrand. His second wife was Matilda (Mafalda), the daughter of King Roger I of Sicily. Raymond's third wife was Elvira, the illegitimate daughter of King Alfonso VI of Castile, the Spanish king who also campaigned furiously against the Moors.


Raymond died in 1105, before Tripoli was captured. He was succeeded by his nephew William-Jordan, who, in 1109, with the aid of King Baldwin I of Jerusalem, finally captured the town and established the County of Tripoli. William was deposed in the same year by Raymond's eldest son Bertrand, and the county remained in the possession of the counts of Toulouse throughout the 12th century.


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[PONS de Toulouse (-1063). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Pons was the oldest son of Pons II Comte de Toulouse according to Europäische Stammtafeln[382] but is not mentioned in Magné & Dizel[383]. The latter describes the succession of the brothers Guillaume IV and Raymond IV on the death of their father in 1060. If Pons the younger did exist, it is not clear why he would have been excluded from the succession. His existence is extremely doubtful.]

Raymond of Toulouse seems to have been driven both by religious and material motives. On the one hand he accepted the discovery of the Holy Lance and rejected the kingship of Jerusalem, but on the other hand he could not resist the temptation of a new territory. Raymond of Aguilers, a clerk in Raymond's army, wrote an account of the crusade from Raymond's point of view.


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_IV_of_Toulouse


Died in battle at Huesca.


Raymond IV, Count of Toulouse


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Raymond IV of Toulouse sometimes called Raymond of St Gilles (c. 1041 or 1042 – 1105) was Count of Toulouse, Duke of Narbonne, and Margrave of Provence and one of the leaders of the First Crusade. He was a son of Pons of Toulouse and Almodis de La Marche. He received Saint-Gilles with the title of "count" from his father and succeeded his brother William IV in Toulouse in 1094.


According to an Armenian source, he had lost an eye on a pilgrimage to Jerusalem before the First Crusade, but this statement probably refers to the fact that he was one-eyed (monoculus). He also fought against the Moors in Spain before 1096, and he was the first to join the crusade after Pope Urban II's sermon at the Council of Clermont.


Early years


In 1094, William Bertrand of Provence died and his margravial title to Provence passed to Raymond. A bull of Urban's dated 22 July 1096 names Raymond comes Nimirum Tholosanorum ac Ruthenensium et marchio Provintie Raimundus.


[edit]The Crusader


Raymond was deeply religious, and wished to die in the Holy Land, and so when the call was raised for the First Crusade, he was one of the first to take the cross. The oldest and the richest of the crusaders, Raymond left Toulouse at the end of October 1096, with a large company that included his wife Elvira, his infant son (who would die on the journey) and Adhemar, bishop of Le Puy, the papal legate. He ignored requests by his niece, Philippa (the rightful heiress to Toulouse) to grant the rule of Toulouse to her in his stead; instead, he left Bertrand, his eldest son, to govern. He marched to Dyrrhachium, and then east to Constantinople along the same route used by Bohemond of Taranto. At the end of April, 1097, he was the only crusade leader not to swear an oath of fealty to Byzantine emperor Alexius I. Instead, Raymond swore an oath of friendship, and offered his support against Bohemond, mutual enemy of both Raymond and Alexius.


He was present at the siege of Nicaea and the Battle of Dorylaeum in 1097, but his first major role came in October of 1097 at the siege of Antioch. The crusaders heard a rumour that Antioch had been deserted by the Seljuk Turks, so Raymond sent his army ahead to occupy it, offending Bohemond of Taranto who wanted the city for himself. The city was, however, still occupied, and was taken by the crusaders only after a difficult siege in June of 1098. Raymond took the palatium Cassiani (the palace of the emir, Yaghi-Siyan) and the tower over the Bridge Gate. He was ill during the second siege of Antioch by Kerbogha which culminated in the discovery of the Holy Lance by a monk named Peter Bartholomew.


The "miracle" raised the morale of the crusaders, and to their surprise they were able to rout Kerbogha outside Antioch. The Lance itself became a valuable relic among Raymond's followers, despite Adhemar of Le Puy's skepticism and Bohemond's disbelief and occasional mockery. Raymond also refused to relinquish his control of the city to Bohemond, reminding Bohemond that he was obligated to return to Antioch and the court of Emperor Alexius, as he had sworn to do. A struggle then arose between Raymond's supporters and the supporters of Bohemond, partly over the genuineness of the Lance, but mostly over the possession of Antioch.


[edit]Extending his territorial reach


Many of the minor knights and foot soldiers preferred to continue their march to Jerusalem, and they convinced Raymond to lead them there in the autumn of 1098. Raymond led them out to besiege Ma'arrat al-Numan, although he left a small detachment of his troops in Antioch, where Bohemond also remained. As Adhemar had died in Antioch, Raymond, along with the prestige given to him by the Holy Lance, became the new leader of the crusade. Bohemond however, expelled Raymond's detachment from Antioch in January of 1099. Raymond then began to search for a city of his own. He marched from Ma'arrat, which had been captured in December of 1098, into the emirate of Tripoli, and began the siege of Arqa on February 14, 1099, apparently with the intent of founding an independent territory in Tripoli that could limit the power of Bohemond to expand the Principality of Antioch to the south.


The siege of Arqa, a town outside Tripoli, lasted longer than Raymond had hoped. Although he successfully captured Hisn al-Akrad, a fortress that would later become the important Krak des Chevaliers, his insistence on taking Tripoli delayed the march to Jerusalem, and he lost much of the support he had gained after Antioch. Raymond finally agreed to continue the march to Jerusalem on May 13, and after months of siege the city was captured on July 15. Raymond was offered the crown of the new Kingdom of Jerusalem, but refused, as he was reluctant to rule in the city in which Jesus had suffered. He said that he shuddered to think of being called "King of Jerusalem". It is also likely that he wished to continue the siege of Tripoli rather than remain in Jerusalem. However, he was also reluctant to give up the Tower of David in Jerusalem, which he had taken after the fall of the city, and it was only with difficulty that Godfrey of Bouillon was able to take it from him.


Raymond participated in the battle of Ascalon soon after the capture of Jerusalem, during which an invading army from Egypt was defeated. However, Raymond wanted to occupy Ascalon himself rather than give it to Godfrey, and in the resulting dispute Ascalon remained unoccupied. It was not taken by the crusaders until 1153. Godfrey also blamed him for the failure of his army to capture Arsuf. When Raymond went north, in the winter of 1099-1100, his first act was one of hostility against Bohemond, capturing Laodicea from (Bohemond had himself recently taken it from Alexius). From Laodicea he went to Constantinople, where he allied with Alexius I, Bohemond's most powerful enemy. Bohemond was at the time attempting to expand Antioch into Byzantine territory, and blatantly refused to fulfill his oath to the Byzantine Empire.


[edit]Defeat


Raymond was part of the doomed Crusade of 1101, where he was defeated at Mersivan in Anatolia. Raymond escaped and returned to Constantinople. In 1102 he travelled by sea from Constantinople to Antioch, where he was imprisoned by Tancred, regent of Antioch during the captivity of Bohemond, and was only dismissed after promising not to attempt any conquests in the country between Antioch and Acre. He immediately broke his promise, attacking and capturing Tartus, and began to build a castle on the Mons Peregrinus ("Pilgrim's Mountain") which would help in his siege of Tripoli. He was aided by Alexius I, who preferred a friendly state in Tripoli to balance the hostile state in Antioch.


[edit]Spouses and progeny


Raymond IV of Toulouse was married three times, and twice excommunicated for marrying within forbidden degrees of consanguinity. His first wife was his cousin, and the mother of his son Bertrand. His second wife was Matilda (Mafalda), the daughter of King Roger I of Sicily. Raymond's third wife was Elvira, the illegitimate daughter of King Alfonso VI of Castile, the Spanish king who also campaigned furiously against the Moors.


Raymond died in 1105, before Tripoli was captured. He was succeeded by his nephew William-Jordan, who, in 1109, with the aid of King Baldwin I of Jerusalem, finally captured the town and established the County of Tripoli. William was deposed in the same year by Raymond's eldest son Bertrand, and the county remained in the possession of the counts of Toulouse throughout the 12th century.


Raymond of Toulouse seems to have been driven both by religious and material motives. On the one hand he accepted the discovery of the Holy Lance and rejected the kingship of Jerusalem, but on the other hand he could not resist the temptation of a new territory. Raymond of Aguilers, a clerk in Raymond's army, wrote an account of the crusade from Raymond's point of view.


[edit]Sources


Payne, Robert. The Dream and the Tomb, 1984


Raymond of Aguilers


This article incorporates text from the Encyclopædia Britannica Eleventh Edition, a publication now in the public domain.


Raymond IV, Count of Toulouse 1093-1105


"Raymond IV, of Saint-Gilles". Catholic Encyclopedia. New York: Robert Appleton Company. 1913.

RAYMOND de Toulouse, son of RAYMOND III Comte de Toulouse & his wife Gundinildis --- ([945/55]-killed "in Garazo" [972/79]). The Codex de Roda names "Regemundo…et domnus Ucus episcopus" as the children of "Regemundus" (son of "Pontio" and his wife "filia Garsie Sanzionis") and his unnamed wife, specifying that the younger Raymond was killed "in Garazo"[308]. As pointed out by Settipani[309], it is reasonable to suppose that Raymond was the same person as "…Raymundo filio Gundinildis nepoti meo" who is named in the codicil testament of "Gersindæ comitissæ", widow of Comte Raymond Pons, dated to [972][310]. Apart from these references, there appears to be no documentary record relating to this Comte Raymond. He succeeded his father [before 972] as RAYMOND IV Comte de Toulouse.


[m firstly (repudiated) ---. The Vita Fulcranni records that "comitem Tholosanum" (unnamed) repudiated his wife to marry another who had been repudiated by her first husband[311]. The Histoire Générale de Languedoc dates this passage to [975], although, because of the reconstruction of the family of the comtes de Toulouse which it has adopted, it assumes that the count in question was Comte Guillaume III "Taillefer"[312]. Even if the chronology had been favourable to this identification, it is unclear how the passage could refer to Comte Guillaume´s two marriages as there is no record of his second wife, Emma de Provence, having been married before. On the other hand, it is not impossible that the passage could refer to the comte de Toulouse who was the husband of Adelais d´Anjou. No record has been found which dates the death of Adelais´s first husband, and it is not impossible that their marriage was terminated by repudiation rather than his death. If this is correct, the passage could refer to an otherwise unrecorded first marriage of Comte Raymond IV.]


m [secondly] ([970/75]) as her second husband, ADELAIS d'Anjou, widow of ETIENNE de Brioude, daughter of FOULQUES II "le Bon" Comte d’Anjou & his first wife Gerberge --- ([940/50]-1026, bur Montmajour, near Arles). Her parentage and first marriage are confirmed by the Chronicle of Saint-Pierre du Puy which names "comes Gaufridus cognomento Grisogonella…Pontius et Bertrandus eius nepotes…matre eorum Adalaide sorore ipsius"[313], the brothers Pons and Bertrand being confirmed in other sources as the sons of Etienne de Brioude, for example the charter dated 1000 under which "duo germani fratres…Pontius, alter Bertrandus" donated property to Saint-Chaffre for the souls of "patris sui Stephani matrisque nomine Alaicis"[314]. Adelais's second and third marriages are confirmed by Richer who records the marriage of Louis and "Adelaidem, Ragemundi nuper defuncti ducis Gothorum uxorem" and their coronation as king and queen of Aquitaine[315]. She married thirdly Vieux-Brioude, Haute-Loire 982, divorced 984) Louis associate King of the Franks [who later succeeded as Louis V King of the Franks]. The Chronicon Andegavensi names "Blanchiam filiam Fulconis Boni comitis Andegavensis" as wife of the successor of "Lotharius rex Francorum", but confuses matters by stating that the couple were parents of "filiam Constantiam" wife of Robert II King of France[316]. The Chronicle of Saint-Maxence names "Blanchiam" as the wife of "Lotharius rex…Ludovicum filium" but does not give her origin[317]. She was crowned Queen of Aquitaine with her third husband on the day of their marriage. The Libro de Otiis Imperialibus names "Blanchiam" as wife of "Ludovicus puer [filius Lotharii]"[318]. Rodulfus Glaber refers to the unnamed wife of "Ludowicum" as "ab Aquitanis partibus uxorem", recounting that she tricked him into travelling to Aquitaine where "she left him and attached herself to her own family"[319]. Adelais married fourthly ([984/86]) as his second wife, Guillaume II "le Libérateur" Comte d'Arles Marquis de Provence. Richer records her marriage with "Wilelmum Arelatensem" after her divorce from Louis[320]. Her fourth marriage is confirmed by the Historia Francorum which names "Blanca sorore Gaufridi comitis Andegavensis" as wife of "Guillelmi comitis Arelatensis"[321]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Blanche comitisse Arelatensis" as mother of "Constantia [uxor Robertus rex]", specifying that she was "soror Gaufridi Grisagonelli"[322]. The Gesta Consulum Andegavorum names "Blanca sorore eius" ("eius" referring incorrectly to Foulques "Nerra" Comte d'Anjou) as wife of "Guillelmi Arelatensis comitis" and as mother of Constance, wife of Robert II King of France[323]. "Adalaiz comitissa" donated property to Saint-Victor de Marseille by charter dated 1003 subscribed by "Emma comitissa…Wilelmus comes"[324]. "Pontius…Massiliensis ecclesie pontifex" issued a charter dated 1005 with the consent of "domni Rodhbaldi comitis et domne Adalaizis comitisse, domnique Guillelmi comitis filii eius"[325]. "Adalax comitissa mater Villelmi quondam Provintie comitis et Geriberga eque comitissa…eiusdem principis olim uxor" donated property to Saint-Victor de Marseille for the soul of their late son and husband respectively by charter dated 1018[326]. [Adelais may have married fifthly (before 1016) as his second wife, Othon Guillaume Comte de Mâcon et de Nevers [Bourgogne-Comté]]. Her supposed fifth marriage is deduced from the following: Count Othon-Guillaume's wife is named Adelais in several charters[327], and Pope Benedict VIII refers to "domnæ Adeleidi comitissæ cognomento Blanchæ" with "nuruique eius domnæ Gerbergæ comitissæ" when addressing her supposed husband in a document dated Sep 1016[328], Gerberga presumably being Count Othon-Guillaume's daughter by his first wife who was the widow of Adelaide-Blanche d´Anjou's son by her fourth husband. However, the document in question appears not to specify that "domnæ Adeleidi…" was the wife of Othon Guillaume and the extracts seen (the full text has not yet been consulted) do not permit this conclusion to be drawn. It is perfectly possible that the Pope named Adelais-Blanche in the letter only in reference to her relationship to Othon Guillaume´s daughter. If her fifth marriage is correct, Adelais would have been considerably older than her new husband, and probably nearly sixty years old when she married (Othon-Guillaume's first wife died in [1002/04]), which seems unlikely. Another difficulty is presented by three entries dated 1018, 1024 and 1026 which appear to link Adelais to Provence while, if the fifth marriage was correct, she would have been with her husband (whose death is recorded in Sep 1026) in Mâcon. These entries are: firstly, "Adalax comitissa mater Villelmi quondam Provintie comitis et Geriberga eque comitissa…eiusdem principis olim uxor" donated property to Saint-Victor de Marseille for the soul of their late son and husband respectively by charter dated 1018[329]; secondly, "Vuilelmus filius Rodbaldi" donated property "in comitatu Aquense in valle…Cagnanam" to Marseille Saint-Victor by charter dated 1024, signed by "Adalaiz comitissa, Vuilelmus comes filius Rodbaldi"[330]; and thirdly, a manuscript written by Arnoux, monk at Saint-André-lès-Avignon, records the death in 1026 of "Adalax comitissa"[331].] The necrology of Saint-Pierre de Mâcon records the death "IV Kal Jun" of "Adalasia comitissa vocata regali progenie orta"[332]. An enquiry dated 2 Jan 1215 records that "comitissa Blanca" was buried "apud Montem Majorem"[333]. No explanation has been found for her having been named Adelais in some sources and Blanche in others, as it is difficult to interpret these documents to mean that they referred to two separate individuals.


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