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your father → Elena Cecilia Lecuna Escobar
his mother → María Elena de la Concepción Escobar Llamosas
her mother → Cecilia Cayetana de la Merced Llamosas Vaamonde de Escobar
her mother → Cipriano Fernando de Las Llamosas y García
her father → José Lorenzo de las Llamozas Silva
his father → Joseph Julián Llamozas Ranero
his father → Manuel Llamosas y Requecens
his father → Isabel de Requesens
his mother → Luis de Requeséns y Zúñiga, Virrey de Holanda
her father → Juan de Zúñiga Avellaneda y Velasco
his father → Pedro de Zúñiga y Avellaneda, II conde de Miranda del Castañar
his father → Diego López de Zúñiga y Guzmán, I conde de Miranda del Castañar
his father → D. Pedro López de Zúñiga y García de Leyva, I Conde de Ledesma, Conde de Plasencia
his father → Dª. Juana García de Leyva, Señora de Hacinas, Quintanilla y Villavaquerín
his mother → Juan Martínez de Leyva, III
her father → Isabella Plantagenet
his mother → Edward III, king of England
her father → Edward II, king of England
his father → Edward I "Longshanks", King of England
his father → Henry III, king of England
his father → Isabella of Angoulême
his mother → Aymer, count of Angoulême
her father → Guillame Taillefer of Angouleme, Comte of Angouleme
his father → Vulgrin II, comte d'Angoulême
his father → William V 'Taillefer', Count of Angoulême
his father → Fulk, count of Agoulême
his father → Geoffrey I, count of Angoulême
his father → William II, count of Angoulême
his father → Arnaud "Manzer", count of Angoulême
his father → Guillaume I "Taillefer", count of Angoulême
his father → Alduin, count of Angoulême
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her mother → Belén de Jesús Ustáriz Lecuna
her mother → Miguel María Ramón de Jesus Uztáriz y Monserrate
her father → María de Guía de Jesús de Monserrate é Ibarra
his mother → Manuel José de Monserrate y Urbina, Teniente Coronel
her father → Antonieta Felicita Javiera Ignacia de Urbina y Hurtado de Mendoza
his mother → Isabel Manuela Josefa Hurtado de Mendoza y Rojas Manrique
her mother → Juana de Rojas Manrique de Mendoza
her mother → Constanza de Mendoza Mate de Luna
her mother → Mayor de Mendoza Manzanedo
her mother → Juan Fernández De Mendoza Y Manuel
her father → Sancha Manuel
his mother → Sancho Manuel de Villena Castañeda, señor del Infantado y Carrión de los Céspedes
her father → Manuel de Castilla, señor de Escalona
his father → Ferdinand "the Saint", king of Castile and León
his father → Berenguela I la Grande, reina de Castilla
his mother → Eleanor of England, Queen consort of Castile
her mother → Eleanor d'Aquitaine, Queen Consort Of England
her mother → Eleanor of Châtellerault, Duchess of Aquitaine
her mother → Aimery I, viscount of Châtellerault
her father → Aliénor de Thouars
his mother → Aimery IV, vicomte de Thouars
her father → Geoffroy II, vicomte de Thouars
his father → Savary III, vicomte de Thouars
his father → Aldéarde d'Aulnay, comtesse of Thouars
his mother → Arnaud "Manzer", count of Angoulême
her husband → Guillaume I "Taillefer", count of Angoulême
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Alduin MP
French: Aldouin
Gender: Male
Birth: circa 866
Angouleme, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France
Death: March 27, 916 (46-54)
St Cybard,Angouleme,Charente,France
Place of Burial: Saint-Cybard, Angoulême
Immediate Family:
Son of Wulgrin, count of Angoulême and Roselinde Guilhemide
Husband of Countess N.N. Taillefer
Father of Guillaume I "Taillefer", count of Angoulême
Brother of Guillaume I, count of Périgord and Sénégonde d'Angoulême
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his mother → María Elena de la Concepción Escobar Llamosas
her mother → Cecilia Cayetana de la Merced Llamosas Vaamonde de Escobar
her mother → Cipriano Fernando de Las Llamosas y García
her father → José Lorenzo de las Llamozas Silva
his father → Joseph Julián Llamozas Ranero
his father → Manuel Llamosas y Requecens
his father → Isabel de Requesens
his mother → Luis de Requeséns y Zúñiga, Virrey de Holanda
her father → Juan de Zúñiga Avellaneda y Velasco
his father → Pedro de Zúñiga y Avellaneda, II conde de Miranda del Castañar
his father → Diego López de Zúñiga y Guzmán, I conde de Miranda del Castañar
his father → D. Pedro López de Zúñiga y García de Leyva, I Conde de Ledesma, Conde de Plasencia
his father → Dª. Juana García de Leyva, Señora de Hacinas, Quintanilla y Villavaquerín
his mother → Juan Martínez de Leyva, III
her father → Isabella Plantagenet
his mother → Edward III, king of England
her father → Edward II, king of England
his father → Edward I "Longshanks", King of England
his father → Henry III, king of England
his father → Isabella of Angoulême
his mother → Aymer, count of Angoulême
her father → Guillame Taillefer of Angouleme, Comte of Angouleme
his father → Vulgrin II, comte d'Angoulême
his father → William V 'Taillefer', Count of Angoulême
his father → Fulk, count of Agoulême
his father → Geoffrey I, count of Angoulême
his father → William II, count of Angoulême
his father → Arnaud "Manzer", count of Angoulême
his father → Guillaume I "Taillefer", count of Angoulême
his father → Alduin, count of Angoulême
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Wulgrin, comte de Angouleme & de Périgord MP
Gender: Male
Birth: circa 828
Avanton, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France
Death: May 03, 886 (54-62)
Angouleme,Charente,Poitou Charentes,France
Place of Burial: Angoulême Saint-Cybard, France
Immediate Family:
Son of Wulfhard, count of Flavigny and Susanna
Husband of Roselinde Guilhemide
Father of Guillaume I, count of Périgord; Alduin, count of Angoulême and Sénégonde d'Angoulême
Brother of Adalhard, count of Paris
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from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ANGOULEME.htm:

The county of Périgord, named after the Celtic tribe of the Petrocorii, was located to the south-east of the county of Angoulême and now forms the major part of the département of Dordogne in France. The counts were vassals of the dukes of Aquitaine. The main towns in the county were Périgueux (ancient Vesunna) and Bergerac. From an ecclesiastical point of view, the county's territory was co-extensive with the episcopacy of Périgueux, within the archbishopric of Bordeaux.

The earliest reference to Périgord as a separate county dates to 866, when Vulgrin, a member of a prominent Frankish noble family of Carolingian descent through the female line, was installed by Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks as comte in Périgord and Angoulême after the death of Emenon Comte de Poitiers, as reported in the Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes[81]. The county of Périgord was inherited by Vulgrin's younger son Guillaume, whose descendants are set out in Part A of this Chapter 2. The line of Guillaume was in constant rivalry with the descendants of Vulgrin's older son Alduin, who inherited the county of Angoulême, the latter county also falling to Bernard Comte de Périgord in [945]. Comte Bernard is reported as having eight sons, none of whom appear to have left any descendants. After passing successively through four of these sons, the county of Périgord was ultimately inherited by Audebert [I] Comte de la Marche, son of their sister Aina who had married Boson [I] Comte de la Marche. Audebert [I] was succeeded in Périgord in 997 by his younger brother Boson [II], who founded the second dynasty of the Comtes de Périgord (see Part B).

COMTES de PERIGORD [860]-after 975

VULGRIN, son of VULFARD Comte de Flavigny {Flavigny-sur-Ozerain, Côte d'Or} & his wife Susanna de Paris (-3 May 886, bur Angoulême Saint-Cybard). The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes records that Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks installed "Vulgrimnum propinquum suum, fratrem Aldoini abbatis" with "Engolisme et Petragorice" after Comte Emenon was killed (in 866)[88]. He was installed as Comte d'Angoulême, Comte de Périgord in 866. His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 2 Nov 889 under which "Vulfardus" donated property to Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire for the souls of "genitoris mei Vulfardi et genetrice mea Susannane necnon et germanorum fratrum meorum Adelardo, Vulgrino, Ymo et sorore mee Hildeburga vel nepote meo Vulgrino"[89]. The death in 886 of "Vulgrimnus comes" is recorded in the Annales Engolismenses[90].

1. other children: see ANGOULEME.

2. ALDUIN [Audouin] (-27 Mar 916, bur Angoulême Saint-Cybard). "Alduino [et] Willelmo" are named as sons of "Vulgrimnus" by Ademar, who specifies that Alduin inherited Angoulême[91]. He succeeded his father in 886 as ALDUIN I Comte d'Angoulême.

- COMTES d'ANGOULEME.

3. GUILLAUME (-[918]). "Alduino [et] Willelmo" are named as sons of "Vulgrimnus" by Ademar, who specifies that Guillaume inherited Périgord[92]. He succeeded as Comte de Périgord et d'Agen. m ([892]) REGILINDIS, daughter of RAYMOND I Comte de Toulouse & his wife Berthe --- . Ademar states that the wife of Guillaume was "sororem Willelmi Tolosani"[93], but this is contradicted in later sources. An act at Angoulême dated 907/908[94] states her first name. An 11th century history of Angoulême[95] states that her son Bernard de Périgueux was the nephew of "Eudes". According to Settipani[96], it is more likely that this "Eudes" was Eudes Comte de Toulouse than Eudes King of France.

References:

[81] Adémar de Chabannes III, 19, p. 137.

[82] Archives départementales des Pyrénées-Atlantiques, E. 613. [J.-C. Chuat]

[83] Bibliothèque nationale de France, Provinces, Collection Périgord ("Coll. Périgord"), the main registries concerning the family of the counts of Périgord being volumes 53 to 55.

[84] http://www.guyenne.fr/ArchivesPerigord/Accueil.htm [20 May 2007].

[85] Bibliothèque nationale de France, Provinces, Languedoc, Collection Doat ("Coll. Doat"), the main registries concerning the family of the counts of Périgord being volumes 242 to 246.

[86] Stanisław Stroński (1914), pp. 8-33, and 100-46.

[87] Settipani, C. (2004) La Noblesse du Midi Carolingien. Etudes sur quelques grandes familles d'Aquitaine et du Languedoc du IXe au XIe siècles (Prosopographica et Genealogica, Oxford), pp. 166-74.

[88] Adémar de Chabannes III, 19, p. 137.

[89] Prou, M. & Vidier, A. (eds.) (1907) Recueil des chartes de l'abbaye de Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire (“Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire”) XXXI, p. 85.

[90] Annales Engolismenses, MGH SS IV, p. 5.

[91] Ademari Historiarum III.20, MGH SS IV, p. 123.

[92] Ademari Historiarum III.20, MGH SS IV, p. 123.

[93] Ademari Historiarum III.20, MGH SS IV, p. 123.

[94] Lefrancq, P. (ed.) (1930) Cartulaire de l'abbaye de Saint-Cybard (Angoulême), no 211, p. 185, cited in Settipani (2004), p. 401.

[95] Boussard, J. (ed.) (1957) Historia pontificum et comitum Engolismensiium (Paris), p. 10, cited in Settipani (2004), p. 401.

[96] Settipani (2004), p. 12.

Iconographie: Chien de chasse aboyant, 9e S.

dans Enarrationes in Psalmos, d'Augustinus. Orléans - BM- ms.46p 38

rom http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ANGOULEME.htm:
The county of Périgord, named after the Celtic tribe of the Petrocorii, was located to the south-east of the county of Angoulême and now forms the major part of the département of Dordogne in France. The counts were vassals of the dukes of Aquitaine. The main towns in the county were Périgueux (ancient Vesunna) and Bergerac. From an ecclesiastical point of view, the county's territory was co-extensive with the episcopacy of Périgueux, within the archbishopric of Bordeaux.

The earliest reference to Périgord as a separate county dates to 866, when Vulgrin, a member of a prominent Frankish noble family of Carolingian descent through the female line, was installed by Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks as comte in Périgord and Angoulême after the death of Emenon Comte de Poitiers, as reported in the Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes[81]. The county of Périgord was inherited by Vulgrin's younger son Guillaume, whose descendants are set out in Part A of this Chapter 2. The line of Guillaume was in constant rivalry with the descendants of Vulgrin's older son Alduin, who inherited the county of Angoulême, the latter county also falling to Bernard Comte de Périgord in [945]. Comte Bernard is reported as having eight sons, none of whom appear to have left any descendants. After passing successively through four of these sons, the county of Périgord was ultimately inherited by Audebert [I] Comte de la Marche, son of their sister Aina who had married Boson [I] Comte de la Marche. Audebert [I] was succeeded in Périgord in 997 by his younger brother Boson [II], who founded the second dynasty of the Comtes de Périgord (see Part B).

COMTES de PERIGORD [860]-after 975

VULGRIN, son of VULFARD Comte de Flavigny {Flavigny-sur-Ozerain, Côte d'Or} & his wife Susanna de Paris (-3 May 886, bur Angoulême Saint-Cybard). The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes records that Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks installed "Vulgrimnum propinquum suum, fratrem Aldoini abbatis" with "Engolisme et Petragorice" after Comte Emenon was killed (in 866)[88]. He was installed as Comte d'Angoulême, Comte de Périgord in 866. His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 2 Nov 889 under which "Vulfardus" donated property to Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire for the souls of "genitoris mei Vulfardi et genetrice mea Susannane necnon et germanorum fratrum meorum Adelardo, Vulgrino, Ymo et sorore mee Hildeburga vel nepote meo Vulgrino"[89]. The death in 886 of "Vulgrimnus comes" is recorded in the Annales Engolismenses[90].

1. other children: see ANGOULEME.

2. ALDUIN [Audouin] (-27 Mar 916, bur Angoulême Saint-Cybard). "Alduino [et] Willelmo" are named as sons of "Vulgrimnus" by Ademar, who specifies that Alduin inherited Angoulême[91]. He succeeded his father in 886 as ALDUIN I Comte d'Angoulême.

- COMTES d'ANGOULEME.

3. GUILLAUME (-[918]). "Alduino [et] Willelmo" are named as sons of "Vulgrimnus" by Ademar, who specifies that Guillaume inherited Périgord[92]. He succeeded as Comte de Périgord et d'Agen. m ([892]) REGILINDIS, daughter of RAYMOND I Comte de Toulouse & his wife Berthe --- . Ademar states that the wife of Guillaume was "sororem Willelmi Tolosani"[93], but this is contradicted in later sources. An act at Angoulême dated 907/908[94] states her first name. An 11th century history of Angoulême[95] states that her son Bernard de Périgueux was the nephew of "Eudes". According to Settipani[96], it is more likely that this "Eudes" was Eudes Comte de Toulouse than Eudes King of France.

References:

[81] Adémar de Chabannes III, 19, p. 137.

[82] Archives départementales des Pyrénées-Atlantiques, E. 613. [J.-C. Chuat]

[83] Bibliothèque nationale de France, Provinces, Collection Périgord ("Coll. Périgord"), the main registries concerning the family of the counts of Périgord being volumes 53 to 55.

[84] http://www.guyenne.fr/ArchivesPerigord/Accueil.htm [20 May 2007].

[85] Bibliothèque nationale de France, Provinces, Languedoc, Collection Doat ("Coll. Doat"), the main registries concerning the family of the counts of Périgord being volumes 242 to 246.

[86] Stanisław Stroński (1914), pp. 8-33, and 100-46.

[87] Settipani, C. (2004) La Noblesse du Midi Carolingien. Etudes sur quelques grandes familles d'Aquitaine et du Languedoc du IXe au XIe siècles (Prosopographica et Genealogica, Oxford), pp. 166-74.

[88] Adémar de Chabannes III, 19, p. 137.

[89] Prou, M. & Vidier, A. (eds.) (1907) Recueil des chartes de l'abbaye de Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire (“Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire”) XXXI, p. 85.

[90] Annales Engolismenses, MGH SS IV, p. 5.

[91] Ademari Historiarum III.20, MGH SS IV, p. 123.

[92] Ademari Historiarum III.20, MGH SS IV, p. 123.

[93] Ademari Historiarum III.20, MGH SS IV, p. 123.

[94] Lefrancq, P. (ed.) (1930) Cartulaire de l'abbaye de Saint-Cybard (Angoulême), no 211, p. 185, cited in Settipani (2004), p. 401.

[95] Boussard, J. (ed.) (1957) Historia pontificum et comitum Engolismensiium (Paris), p. 10, cited in Settipani (2004), p. 401.

[96] Settipani (2004), p. 12.

Iconographie: Chien de chasse aboyant, 9e S.

dans Enarrationes in Psalmos, d'Augustinus. Orléans - BM- ms.46p 38

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729	-	Udalrich I, Graf im Breisgau	-	K-375
756	-	Udalrich II, Graf im Breisgau	-	K-374
783	-	Wulfhard, count of Flavigny	-	K-373
828	-	Wulgrin, count of Angoulême	-	K-372
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895	-	Guillaume I Taillefer count of Angoulême	-	K-370
927	-	Arnaud Manzer count of Angoulême	-	K-369
960	-	William II, count of Angoulême	-	K-368
990	-	Geoffrey I, count of Angoulême	-	K-367
1015	-	Fulk, count of Agoulême	-	K-366
1084	-	William V Taillefer Count of Angoulême	-	K-365
1089	-	Vulgrin II, comte d'Angoulême	-	K-364
1115	-	Guillame Taillefer of Angouleme, Comte of Angouleme	-	K-363
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Wulfhard MP
Gender: Male
Birth: circa 783
of Paris
Death: after 832
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Son of Udalrich II, Graf im Breisgau
Husband of Susanna
Father of Wulgrin, count of Angoulême and Adalhard, count of Paris
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Udalrich II, Graf im Breisgau is your 33rd great grandfather.
You→ Carlos Juan Felipe Antonio Vicente De La Cruz Urdaneta Alamo→ Enrique Jorge Urdaneta Lecuna
your father → Elena Cecilia Lecuna Escobar
his mother → María Elena de la Concepción Escobar Llamosas
her mother → Cecilia Cayetana de la Merced Llamosas Vaamonde de Escobar
her mother → Cipriano Fernando de Las Llamosas y García
her father → José Lorenzo de las Llamozas Silva
his father → Joseph Julián Llamozas Ranero
his father → Manuel Llamosas y Requecens
his father → Isabel de Requesens
his mother → Luis de Requeséns y Zúñiga, Virrey de Holanda
her father → Juan de Zúñiga Avellaneda y Velasco
his father → Pedro de Zúñiga y Avellaneda, II conde de Miranda del Castañar
his father → Diego López de Zúñiga y Guzmán, I conde de Miranda del Castañar
his father → D. Pedro López de Zúñiga y García de Leyva, I Conde de Ledesma, Conde de Plasencia
his father → Dª. Juana García de Leyva, Señora de Hacinas, Quintanilla y Villavaquerín
his mother → Juan Martínez de Leyva, III
her father → Isabella Plantagenet
his mother → Edward III, king of England
her father → Edward II, king of England
his father → Edward I "Longshanks", King of England
his father → Henry III, king of England
his father → Isabella of Angoulême
his mother → Aymer, count of Angoulême
her father → Guillame Taillefer of Angouleme, Comte of Angouleme
his father → Vulgrin II, comte d'Angoulême
his father → William V 'Taillefer', Count of Angoulême
his father → Fulk, count of Agoulême
his father → Geoffrey I, count of Angoulême
his father → William II, count of Angoulême
his father → Arnaud "Manzer", count of Angoulême
his father → Guillaume I "Taillefer", count of Angoulême
his father → Alduin, count of Angoulême
his father → Wulgrin, count of Angoulême
his father → Wulfhard, count of Flavigny
his father → Udalrich II, Graf im Breisgau
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Udalrich Vinzgau, Count of Breisgau MP
Gender: Male
Birth: between circa 763 and 770
Kraichgau (Within present Baden-Württemberg), (Present Germany)
Death: circa 824 (46-69)
Breisgau-Hochschwarzwald, Argengau (Present Bavaria and Baden-Württemberg), (Present Germany)
Immediate Family:
Son of Gerold, count in Kraichgau and Anglachgau and Emma, of Alemannia, Duchess of Swabia
Husband of Wife of Udalrich im Breisgau
Father of Udalrich II, Graf im Breisgau and Hitta Udalriching / Thurgau
Brother of Ermentrude Von Schwaben; Gerold "der Jüngere" in der Baar, II; Hildegard of Vinzgouw; Adrien, count of Orléans; Megingoz in Alemannien and 7 others
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Udalrich I, Count in Alpgau, Breisgau, Thurgau, & Hegau1

d. after 808
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702	-	Gerold, count in Kraichgau	-	K-376
729	-	Udalrich I, Graf im Breisgau	-	K-375
756	-	Udalrich II, Graf im Breisgau	-	K-374
783	-	Wulfhard, count of Flavigny	-	K-373
828	-	Wulgrin, count of Angoulême	-	K-372
866	-	Alduin, count of Angoulême	-	K-371
895	-	Guillaume I Taillefer count of Angoulême	-	K-370
927	-	Arnaud Manzer count of Angoulême	-	K-369
960	-	William II, count of Angoulême	-	K-368
990	-	Geoffrey I, count of Angoulême	-	K-367
1015	-	Fulk, count of Agoulême	-	K-366
1084	-	William V Taillefer Count of Angoulême	-	K-365
1089	-	Vulgrin II, comte d'Angoulême	-	K-364
1115	-	Guillame Taillefer of Angouleme, Comte of Angouleme	-	K-363
1160	-	Aymer, count of Angoulême	-	K-362
1188	-	Isabelle of Angoulême, Queen Consort of England	-	182193

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Father Gerold I, Duke of Alamania, Count Vinzgau1 d. a 779 Mother Imma (Emma) of Linzgau1 d. 798

Udalrich I, Count in Alpgau, Breisgau, Thurgau, & Hegau died after 808. Family Children Ulrich II, Count in the Argengau & Linzgau+ d. a 818 Hidda of Thurgau+1 Woulgrim, Count Agen, Perigord, & Angouleme+ b. c 815, d. 3 May 886

Citations [S54] Middle & Far East Families, Bavaria. -------------------------------

From the German Wikipedia page on the Udalrichinger family (which carries Udalrich's name):

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udalrichinger

Die Udalrichinger waren ein fränkisch-alemannisches Adelsgeschlecht mit Sitz in Bregenz und Winterthur, das vom 8. bis zum 11. Jahrhundert existierte. Namensgeber war Graf Udalrich I., Sohn des Gerold von Anglachgau und Bruder der Hildegard und somit ein Schwager Karls des Großen. Diese gehörten zum Reichsadel, waren seit der zweiten Hälfte des 8. Jahrhunderts im Bodenseegebiet begütert und gewannen dort großen Einfluss. Sie besaßen Grafschaften in Alp-, Breis-, Thur-, Linz-, Argen- und Hegau. Ihre Kontrahenten waren die Hunfridinger, die in Rätien herrschten. Der Versuch der Udalrichinger, dieses Gebiet zu erobern, scheiterte trotz königlicher Billigung. Um 839 verloren sie große Teile ihrer Grafschaften am Bodensee an die Welfen, gewannen sie jedoch 854 wieder zurück und dehnten sogar ihre Herrschaft durch das gute Verhältnis zu den Karolingern auf Pannonien, das Klett-, das Nibel- und das Rheingau aus. Um 1040 teilte sich das Geschlecht in die drei Linien Buchhorn, Bregenz und Pfullendorf.

Stammliste

Gerold I., 774/784 Graf am Mittelrhein, † wohl vor 795; ∞ Imma, 778/786 bezeugt, Tochter von Graf Hnabi, Schwester von Graf Ruatpert

1.Gerold II., * um 755/60, † 799 Stammvater der Geroldonen

2.Hildegard, * 758; † 30. April 783; ∞ Karl der Große

3.Ulrich (Udalrich) I., † 807, Graf in Pannonien, Graf im Breisgau 780-807, Graf am Bodensee

1a.Udalrich II., † nach 815

1b.Ratbert (800/803), Ruadbert (806/813–814), † wohl 817, Graf, 806 Graf im Thurgau, 807/813–814 Graf am Nordufer des Bodensees, 807 Graf im Argengau, 813–814 Graf im Linzgau, begraben wohl in Lindau

– vermutliche Nachkommen:

1.Udalrich III., † 13. oder 14. April vor 896/900, 860 Graf im Argengau, 867 wohl als „dilectus nepos“ (auserwählter Verwandter) des Königs Ludwig der Deutsche bezeichnet, 885/889 Graf am Nordufer des Bodensees, 885–886 Graf im Argengau, 889 Graf im Linzgau

1a. ? Udalrich IV., † 27. September 894/26. Mai 896–900, 885/894 Graf am Nordufer des Bodensees, 885 und 894 Graf im Argengau, 891 Graf im Linzgau und im Rheingau, 894 als „Udalrich junior“ bezeichnet, ∞ Perehheide, 886/890 bezeugt

1a1.Keroldus, 886 bezeugt

1a2.Irmindrud, 886/894 Äbtissin von Aadorf

1a3.Persehdrud, 886 Äbtissin von Aadorf

ohne Anschluss:

Ulrich V. in Buchhorn, 912/um 920 Graf; ∞ Wendilgart – Nachkommen: die Grafen von Bregenz

Literatur

Detlev Schwennicke: Europäische Stammtafeln, Band XII, 1992, Tafel 24

darin benutzt;

Eberhard Knapp: Die älteste Buchhorner Urkunde, in: Württembergische Vierteljahreshefte für Landesgeschichte, Neue Folge XIX, 1910

J: Zösmair: Geschichte Rudolfs des letzten der alten Grafen von Bregenz (1097–1160), in: Schriften der Vereins für Geschichte des Bodensees und seiner Umgebung, 44. Heft, Lindau 1915

Paul Kaiser: Geschichte des Fürstentums Liechtenstein, 2. verbesserte Auflage von Johann Baptist Büchel, Vaduz 1923

Andreas Ulmer: Die Burgen und Edelsitze Vorarlbergs und Liechtensteins, Dornbirn 1925

Elisabeth Mayer-Marthaler: Die Gamertingerurkunde, in: Zeitschrift für Schweizerische Geschichte 54, 1945

Karl Schmid: Graf Rudolf von Pfullendorf und Kaiser Friedrich I., Freiburg 1954 (Forschungen zur Oberrheinischen Landesgeschichte Band I)

Hellmuth Gensicke: Die Anfänge des Hauses Laurenburg-Nassau, in: Nassauische Annalen 66, 1955

Otto Baumhauer, in: Montfort, Zeitschrift für Geschichte, Heimat- und Volkskunde 8.2, 1956

Paul Kläui: Hochmittelalterliche Adelsherrschaften im Zürichgau, Zürich 1960, in: Mitteilungen der Gesellschaft … in Zürich, Band 4, Heft 2)

Franz Perret: Urkundenbuch der südlichen Teile des Kantons St. Gallen I, Rorschach 1961

Hans Jänichen: Zur Genealogie der älteren Grafen von Veringen, in: Zeitschrift für Württembergische Landesgeschichte XXVII, Stuttgart 1968

Hans Kläui: Geschichte von Oberwinterthur im Mittelalter, 295. Neujahrsblatt der Stadtbibliothek Winterthur, 1968/69

Benedikt Bilgeri: Geschichte Vorarlbergs I, Wien-Graz-Köln 1971

Jürg L. Muraro: Untersuchungen zur Geschichte der Freiherren von Vaz – 10. Jahresbericht der Historisch-Antiquarischen Gesellschaft von Graubünden, Jahrgang 1970, Chur 1972

Ilse Miscoll-Reckert: Kloster Petershausen als bischöflich Konstanzisches Eigenkloster, Sigmaringen 1973 (Konstanzen Geschichts- und Rechtsquellen, hg. vom Stadtarchiv Konstanz)

Helmut G. Walther: Gründungsgeschichte und Tradition im Kloster Petershausen vor Konstanz, in: Schriften des Vereins für Geschichte des Bodensees und seiner Umgebung, 96. Heft, 1978

Hans Ulrich Berendes: Die Bischöfe von Worms im 12. Jahrhundert, Diss. Köln 1984

Hans Werner Goetz: Typus einer Adelsherrschaft im späteren 9. Jahrhundert: Der Linzgaugraf Ulrich, in: St. Galler Kultur und Geschichte 11, hg. vom Staats- und Stiftsarchiv St. Gallen 1981

Michael Borgolte: Die Grafen Alemanniens in merowingischer und karolingischer Zeit, Sigmaringen 1986 (Archäologie und Geschichte, Freiburger Forschungen zum ersten Jahrtausend in Südwestdeutschland Band 2)

Helvetia Sacra III.1, Bern 1986

In English:

The Udalrichinger were a Frankish-Alemannic noble family established in Bregenz and Winterthur and existing from the 8th to the 11th century. It was named from Graf Udalrich I, son of Gerold von Anglachgau and brother of Hildegarde (thus a brother-in-law of Charlemagne). The family was part of the Imperial nobility, and since the second half of the 8th century were wealthy inhabitants of the Lake Constance area with considerable influence. They held counties in the Alps, Breis, Thur, Linz, Argen, and Hegau areas.

Their rivals were the Hunfridingers that prevailed in Ratien (Rhaetia). The attempts of the Udalrichingers to conquer the lands of the Hunfridingers failed, despite royal support. In 839, the lost much of their territory in the area of Lake Constance to the Welfs, but in 854 they restored their holds, and even extended their territories through a good relationship with the Carolingians from Pannonien, forcing the Kleft, Nibel, and Rheingau out.

Around 1040, the family split into three lines: The Buchhorn, the Bregenz, and the Pfullendorf.

Master list:

Gerold I, 774/784, Graf in the Middle Rhine, probably d. before 795, married Imma, who in 778/786 is documented as the daughter of Graf Hnabi, and sister of Graf Rutpert.

1. Gerold II c.755/60, d. 799, progenitor of the Geroldonen line.

2. Hildegard, b. 758, d. 30 April 783, married Charlemagne

3. Ulrich (Udalrich) I, d. 807, Graf in Pannonien, Graf im Breisgau 780-807, Graf am Bodensee (Lake Constance)

3a. Udalrich II, died after 815.

3b. Ratbert (800/803), Ruadbert (806/813-814), d. probably 817, Graf. In 806, Graf im Thurgau, 807/813-814, Graf am Nordulfer des Bodensees, 807 Graf im Argengau, 813-814 Graf im Linzgau, probably buried in Lindau.

-Probable descendants:

1. Udalrich III, d. 13 or 14 April 896/900. In 860 Count in Argengau, 867 also "Dilectus Nepos" (chosen relative) of King Louis the German, 885/889 Graf on the northern shores of Lake Constance, 885-886 Graf in Argengau, 889 Graf in Lintzgau.

1a. Udalrich IV, d. 27 September 894 or 26 May 896-900. In 885/894 Graf on the northern shores of Lake Constance, 885 to 894 Graf in Argengau, 891 Graf in Linzgau and Rheingau, 894 served as a junior Udalrich. Married Perehheide in 886/890. Had issue:

1a1. Keroldus, 886 documented

1a2. Imindrud, 886/894, Abbess of Aardorf

1a3. Persehdrud, 886, Abbess of Aador

No connection:

Ulrich V Buchhorn, 912/920 Graf, married Wendigart - offspring were the Graf von Bregenz.

From the German Wikipedia page on Argengau:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argengau

Das Argengau war eine karolingische Grafschaft am nordöstlichen Ufer des Bodensees im Bereich der heutigen Länder Bayern und Baden-Württemberg. Durch das Gebiet fließt der namensgebende Fluss Argen.

Urkunden aus dem 8. und 9. Jahrhundert belegen, dass folgende Ortschaften dem Argengau zugeordnet waren: Tettnang, Langenargen, Laimnau, Apflau, Haslach.

Der früheste bekannte Graf im Argengau ist Ruthard, der als Stammvater der Welfen gilt (769). Ab 783 ist Ruadbert, möglicherweise ein Urenkel des Alemannenherzogs Gotfrid, als Graf des Argengaus belegt. Sein Neffe Udalrich I., Schwager Karls des Großen, folgte ihm nach. 807 wurde dessen Sohn Rodbert urkundlich erwähnt, der um 824 von einem Grafen Ruachar unbekannter Herkunft abgelöst wurde. Ludwig der Fromme verlieh die Grafschaft an seinen Schwager, den Welfen Konrad I.. Dessen Sohn, Welf II., verlor das Vertrauen Ludwig des Deutschen, als sich seine Brüder auf die Seite Karls des Kahlen schlugen. Ludwig setzte daraufhin Udalrich III. (einen Nachkommen des Udalrich I.) ein. Dessen Sohn Udalrich IV. fiel bei Arnulf von Kärnten in Ungnade und verlor das Grafenrecht um 890 zumindest vorübergehend.

Nachbargaue waren unter anderen der Hegau, der Linzgau und der Schussengau, wobei letzterer möglicherweise nur ein Untergau des Linzgaus gewesen sein mochte.

Siehe hierzu Beschreibung des Oberamts Tettnang von 1838 in Wikisource

In English:

Argengau was a Carolingian county on the northeast shore of Lake Constance within the present regions of Bavaria and Baden-Wurttemberg. The eponymous Argen River flows through the territory. Documents from the 8th and 9th century show that the following towns were located within Argengau: Tettnang, Langenargen, Laimnau, Apflau, and Haslach.

The earleist known Count in Argengau was Ruthard, who was the progenitor of future counts in Argengau (769). From 783, Ruadbert, possibly great-grandson of Alemannian Duke Gotfrid, was Count of occupied Argengau. His nephew, Udalrich (Ulrich) I, brother of Charlemagne, succeeded him. In 807, Rodberte was count; his son Ruachar was mentioned in documents around 824. Louis the Pious gave the county to his brother, Guelph Konrad I. His son, Guelph II, lost the confidence of Louis the German when his brothers who supported Charles the Bald were defeated. Louis (Ludwig) appointed Udalrich III (a descendant of Uldalrich I) to succeed him. His son was Udalrich IV, whom Arnulf of Carinthia regarded quite well. Udalrich became Count around 890, at least temporarily.

Neighboring "gau" lands included Hegau, the Linzgau, and Schussengau, the latter being one of the Linzgaus. Untergau might have been part of Argengau.

See the description of the Oberamt Tettnang of 1838 in Wikisource.

From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Swabian Nobility:

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SWABIAN%20NOBILITY.htm

GEROLD . Graf im Kraichgau [Udalrichinger].

m IMMA, daughter of NEBE [Hnabi] Duke of Alemannia & his wife Hereswint --- (-798).

Graf Gerold & his wife had seven children:

a) GEROLD [II] (-killed in battle 1 Sep 799, bur Augia) m ---. The name of Gerold's wife is not known. Graf Gerold [II] & his wife had one child.

---

b) UDALRICH [I] (-[824]).

The Gesta Karoli names "Oudalrico" as "fratri magnæ Hildigardæ"[314]. "Uodalrichi comitis" donated property "in pago Alsacinse…" to Fulda by charter dated 31 Mar 778 which names "Imma genetrix [sua]"[315].

Graf im Alpgau und Breisgau 780/81.

Graf im Hegau 787/91.

Graf im Thurgau 787.

"Ruadkerus" donated property "in inferiore Lengiuuanc et in Entingas" to the monastery of St Gallen by charter dated 26 Aug 798 "sub Odalrico comite"[316].

Graf on the north bank of Bodensee 805/17.

"Uodalrichus [comes]" donated property "in pago Alsacinse in villa…Heinhain" to Fulda for the soul of "germani mei Uotoni" by charter dated 1 May 803[317]. The Traditiones Fuldenses record the donation of “Vdalrih comes de Alsatia” of property “in Scastolfesheim” for the soul of “Ottone fratre suo”[318].

Graf in Alsace 817.

Udalrich's four sons subscribed a charter dated 803[319].

m ---. The name of Udalrich's wife is not known.

Graf Udalrich [I] & his wife had [five] children:

i) BEBO .

The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. 803.

ii) GEROLD [III] (-after 826).

The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. 803. Einhard names "Geroldus comes" as one of the 15 witnesses of the testament of Emperor Charlemagne dated 811[320]. Einhard's Annales name "Geroldum comitem" as imperial legate to Italy in 815[321]. Einhard's Annales name "Bertricum palatii comitem" sending "Baldricum et Geroldum comites" to fight the Avars in 826[322]. Einhard's Annales names "Bertricum palatii comitem et Baldricum et Geroldum comites" as imperial missi to "Bulgarorum regem" in 826[323].

iii) UDALRICH [II] .

The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. 800/03.

iv) ROTBERT [Ruadbert/Robert] (-[817, bur Lindau]).

The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.

Graf 806/813-814.

Graf im Thurgau 806.

Graf on the north bank of Bodensee 807/813-814.

Graf im Argengau 807.

Graf im Linzgau 813/14.

v) [HIDDA .

Jackman quotes the Memorial book of Reichenau which lists (in order) "Hunfridus, Hitta, Adelpreht, Odalrih, Hunfrid, Liutsind, Hitta, Imma, Aba", whom he links with the family of Hunfried, and the Memorial book of St Gallen which lists the same persons with Robert, whom he identifies as the son of Graf Udalrich [I], deducing that "Hitta" was the wife of Hunfried [I] and sister of Robert[324].

m HUNFRID [I], son of ---.

Marchese in Istria 799.

Graf in Rätien 806/808.]

---

c) UDO (-[before 798]).

d) HILDEGARD (758-Thionville, Moselle 30 Apr 783, bur Metz, église abbatiale de Saint-Arnoul) m (Aix-la-Chapelle 771 before 30 Apr) as his second wife, CHARLES I King of the Franks, son of PEPIN "le Bref" King of the Franks & his wife Bertrada [Berta] "au Grand Pied" (near Aix-la-Chapelle 2 Apr 748-Aix-la-Chapelle 28 Jan 814, bur Aix-la-Chapelle, Chapelle Sainte-Marie).

e) MEGINGOZ . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. 784/85.

f) [ADRIANUS m WALDRADA, daughter of --- (-after 15 Feb 824). Adrianus & his wife had two children.

g) [ERBIO (-before 793).

References

[314] Monachi Sangallensis Gesta Karoli I.13, MGH SS II, p. 736.

[315] Dronke, E. F. J. (ed.) (1850) Codex Diplomaticus Fuldensis 61, p. 38.

[316] Württembergisches Urkundenbuch I, 51, p. 54.

[317] Codex Diplomaticus Fuldensis 178, p. 100.

[318] Dronke, E. F. J. (ed.) (1844) Traditiones et Antiquitates Fuldenses (Fulda) ("Traditiones Fuldenses"), I Ex codice Eberhardi monachi, 3, 10, p. 3.

[319] Codex diplomaticus Fuldensis no. 178, cited in Jackman, D. C. (1997) Criticism and Critique, sidelights on the Konradiner (Oxford Unit for Prosopographical Research), p. 125.

[320] Einhardi Vita Karoli Imperatoris, MGH SS II, p. 463.

[321] Einhardi Annales 815, MGH SS I, p. 202.

[322] Einhardi Annales 826, MGH SS I, p. 214.

[323] Einhardi Annales 826, MGH SS I, p. 214.

[324] Jackman, D. C. (1997) Criticism and Critique, sidelights on the Konradiner (Oxford Unit for Prosopographical Research), p. 127.

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her mother → Cipriano Fernando de Las Llamosas y García
her father → José Lorenzo de las Llamozas Silva
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Emma MP
German: Imma, Dutch: Imma
Gender: Female
Birth: 726
Alamannia (present Baden-Württemberg), Frankish Empire (within present Germany)
Death: between 783 and 798 (57-72)
Swabia (present Baden-Württemberg), Frankish Empire (within present Germany)
Place of Burial: Lorsch Abbey /Lorsch Bergstraßener, Kreis Hessen, Germany, Germany
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Hnabi, Duke of the Alemannians and Hereswintha of the Saxons
Wife of Gerold, count in Kraichgau and Anglachgau
Mother of Ermentrude Von Schwaben; Gerold "der Jüngere" in der Baar, II; Hildegard of Vinzgouw; Adrien, count of Orléans; Udalrich I, Graf im Breisgau and 8 others
Sister of Gerswinde von Alemannien
Half sister of Theutbold II, Duke of the Alemannians and Robert von Hegau
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Imma (Emma) of Linzgau1
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F, #9786, d. 798

Father Nebi, Duke of Alamania1 d. a 724 Mother Hereswint of Haspengau1

Imma (Emma) of Linzgau married Gerold I, Duke of Alamania, Count Vinzgau, son of Hado van Vinzgau and Gerniu van Sueva.2,1 Imma (Emma) of Linzgau died in 798. Family Gerold I, Duke of Alamania, Count Vinzgau d. a 779 Children Irmintrudis of Swabia+ Hadrian, Count of Orleans, Worms+ d. b 15 Feb 824 Erlafrid II+ d. a 830 Udalrich I, Count in Alpgau, Breisgau, Thurgau, & Hegau+2 d. a 808 Hildegarde of Swabia+2 b. 758, d. 30 Apr 783 Megingoz (Megingaud) I van Vinzgau, Graf van Vinzgau+3 b. c 760, d. a 808

Citations [S54] Middle & Far East Families, Swabia. [S54] Middle & Far East Families, Bavaria. [S11640] Www.genealogieonline.nl.

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http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020008&tree=LEO

Ben M. Angel notes: There is no indication in any reliable sources that shows where Imma was born, or where she died. She is from Alamannia, which is located within Swabia (present Baden-Wurttemberg). Her husband was from Kraichgau, an Alamannian state located near Anglachgau in Swabia. There is no reasonable indication that she had ever seen Aachen (though her daughter would later become quite familiar with the city).

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Emma (730–789), daughter of Hnabi, Duke of Alamannia. In 757, Emma married Gerold of Vinzgouw. They had the following:

Gerold I Duke of Swabia Count in the Anglachau AFN 9GCD-JS

b 710, Aichen, Rhineland, Prussia
Parents: Gerold Bishop of Mayence, son of Gerold
Spouse: Imma Duchess of Swabia
Child: Hadrian de Allemania
Child: Hildegarde of Vinzgau m Charlemagne
Eric of Friuli
Adrian, Count of Orléans, father of Odo I, Count of Orléans
Gerold
Udalrich
Hildegard, who in 771 married King Charlemagne.
Född: Abt 731 of, Aachen, Rhnlnd, Prussia

Family:

1 Geroud (Godfray) of Swabia, [Duke/Count of]
Children:
1. Hildegarde of Swabia, [Emps/The West]
Sources:

1. Ancestral roots of certain American colonists who came to America before 1700", Frederick Lewis Weis, 1992, seventh edition. and/or " Ancestral Roots Of Sixty Colonists", 6th edition, Line 50, by Dr. Frederich Lewis Weis.

2. "Royal Genealogical Database", Brian Tompsett/bct or B.C.Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk

3. www.mathematical.com, based on raven pages no longer in existance and other sources (see For Mor Mac)

From Darryl Lundy's Peerage page (Forrás / Source):

http://www.thepeerage.com/p15848.htm#i158474

Imma of Swabia (1)

F, #158474
Last Edited=20 Aug 2005
Imma of Swabia married Gerold I, Count of Vinzgau. (1)
Child of Imma of Swabia and Gerold I, Count of Vinzgau

-1. Hildegard of Vinzgau+ b. c 757, d. 30 Apr 783 (1)
From the Wikipedia on her husband Gerold of Vinzgau:

In 757, he (Gerold) married Emma (730–789), daughter of Hnabi, Duke of Alamannia. They had the following:

*1. Eric of Friuli
2. Adrian, Count of Orléans, father of Odo I, Count of Orléans
3. Gerold
4. Udalrich
5. Hildegard, who in 771 married King Charlemagne.
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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Swabia (covering Imma's closest family):

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SWABIA.htm#ImmaMGeroldUdalrichinger

NEBE [Hnabi] . "Nebe" son of "Huochingus" is named by Thegan[22].

m HERESWINT, daughter of --- & his wife [Williswint] ---. Hereswint is named as wife of Nebe[23]. Nebe & his wife had two children:

(a) RUODPERT [Robert] (-[785]). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. m ---. The name of Ruodpert's wife is not known. Ruodpert & his wife had one child:

(1) ERBIO (-after 788). Erbio son of Robert made a donation to Wissembourg by charter dated 788[24].

m ---. The name of Erbio's wife is not known.

Erbio & his wife had two children:

a.UDO (-after 808). Udo and Eugenia, children of Erbio, made a donation to Wissembourg by charter dated 808[25].

b. EUGENIA (-after 808). Udo and Eugenia, children of Erbio, made a donation to Wissembourg by charter dated 808[26].

(b) IMMA .

"Imma" daughter of "Nebe" is named by Thegan[27].

Her marriage is suggested by Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris which names "Hildigardam [wife of Charles I King of the Franks] quæ erat de cognatione Gotefridi ducis Alamannorum" and specifies that she was Imma's daughter[28].

The Annales Alamannici record the death in 798 of "Imma"[29].

m GEROLD Graf im Kraichgau [Udalrichinger], son of ---.

References:

[22] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 2, MGH SS II, p. 591.

[23] Codex Laureshamensis, no. 2101, cited in Jackman, p. 128.

[24] Brückner, A. (ed.) (1949) Regesta Alsatiæ ævi Merovingici et Karolini 496-918, Vol. I (Strasbourg-Zurich), no. 327, cited in Jackman, p. 126.

[25] Brückner, A. (ed.) (1949) Regesta Alsatiæ ævi Merovingici et Karolini 496-918, Vol. I (Strasbourg-Zurich), no. 327, cited in Jackman, p. 126.

[26] Brückner, A. (ed.) (1949) Regesta Alsatiæ ævi Merovingici et Karolini 496-918, Vol. I (Strasbourg-Zurich), no. 327, cited in Jackman, p. 126.

[27] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 2, MGH SS II, p. 591.

[28] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 2, MGH SS II, p. 590-1.

[29] Annales Alamannici 798, MGH SS I, p. 48.

And from Gerold's FMG profile:

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SWABIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#GeroldUdalrichingerMImma

GEROLD . Graf im Kraichgau [Udalrichinger].

m IMMA, daughter of NEBE [Hnabi] Duke of Alemannia & his wife Hereswint --- (-798).

Graf Gerold & his wife had seven children:

a) GEROLD [II] (-killed in battle 1 Sep 799, bur Augia). Prefect in Bavaria 796. Benefactor of Reichenau and St Gallen. He was killed in battle against the Avars [307]. The Annales Laurissenses Continuatio records that "Geroldus comes Baioariæ prefectus" was killed in battle against the Avars and was buried "in Augia" in 799 [312].

m ---. The name of Gerold's wife is not known. Graf Gerold [II] & his wife had one child.

b) UDALRICH [I] (-[824]). Graf im Alpgau und Breisgau 780/81. Graf im Hegau 787/91. Graf im Thurgau 787. Graf in Alsace 817.

m ---. The name of Udalrich's wife is not known. Graf Udalrich [I] & his wife had [five] children.

c) UDO (-[before 798]). 788.

d) HILDEGARD (758-Thionville, Moselle 30 Apr 783, bur Metz, église abbatiale de Saint-Arnoul). Einhard refers to Hildegard as "de gente Suavorum" [327]. She died from the after effects of childbirth, according to the epitaph of her daughter Hildegarde [330].

m (Aix-la-Chapelle 771 before 30 Apr) as his second wife, CHARLES I King of the Franks, son of PEPIN "le Bref" King of the Franks & his wife Bertrada [Berta] "au Grand Pied" (near Aix-la-Chapelle 2 Apr 748-Aix-la-Chapelle 28 Jan 814, bur Aix-la-Chapelle, Chapelle Sainte-Marie). He was crowned CHARLES I “Charlemagne” Emperor of the Romans in 800.

e) MEGINGOZ . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. 784/85.

f) [ADRIANUS . Adrian is named as son of Gerhard in a charter dated 793 which also names his germanus Erbio [332].] same person as…? ADRIANUS (-before 10 Nov 821). No proof has so far been found which confirms this co-identity. However, the name Adrianus was unusual at that time which indicates that it may be correct.

m WALDRADA, daughter of --- (-after 15 Feb 824). Adrianus & his wife had two children.

g) [ERBIO (-before 793).

References:

[307] ES XII 24.

[312] Annales Laurissenses Continuatio usque ad a. 829 Auctore Einhardo 799, MGH SS I, p. 186.

[327] Einhard 18, p. 453.

[330] Pauli Gesta Episcop. Mettensium, MGH SS II, p. 267.

[332] Codex Laureshamensis, no. 936, cited in Jackman (1997), p. 126.

FMG identified the region in which Imma's husband's family was most involved in as Thurgau, which was supposed to be somewhere near Lake Constance:

Thurgau was located south of Lake Constance. It is now the name of a canton in north-east Switzerland, but it is unclear whether this is co-extensive with the medieval county of the same name.

Also:

Europäische Stammtafeln records Gerold as "Graf im Mittelrheingebiet", implying a Franconian origin. However, a strong connection with Swabia is indicated by the places where his sons were recorded as counts.

Her name is sometimes spelled Imma.

Royal Title: Duchess of Swabia

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3) GenealogyOnline: Stamboom I.D.M. de Vried: Hadrianus (Adrian) van Orleans (Graf van Orleans)

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http://www.genealogieonline.nl/en/stamboom-i-m-d-de-vries/I17764.php

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Hnabi, Herzog der Alemannen MP
Gender: Male
Birth: circa 710
Alemannia (present Baden-Württemberg), Frankish Empire (present Germany)
Death: circa 788 (70-86)
Alemannia (present Baden-Württemberg), Carolingian Empire (present Germany)
Place of Burial: Germany
Immediate Family:
Son of Huoching of the Alemannians and Wife of Huoching
Husband of Unknown partner and Hereswintha of the Saxons
Father of Theutbold II, Duke of the Alemannians; Robert von Hegau; Gerswinde von Alemannien and Emma, of Alemannia, Duchess of Swabia
Brother of Gerold von Vinzgau; Berthold and Ara of the Alemannians
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Ben M. Angel's summary:

Relationships:

Parents:

Father: Huoching, Alemannian nobleman
Mother: Unknown
Siblings:

None noted.
Spouse:

Hereswind (Hereswintha, Hereswint)
Children:

1. Ruodpert (Robert), Graf im Hegau (770-785)
2. Imma (Emma), wife of Gerald, Graf von Anglachgau (d. 784/786)
Basic information and justifications:

Birth: 710/715 according to German Wikipedia. Birth can be presumed to be in Alemmania, but there is a question about whether his father comes from the region or from the area around the Moselle (apparently from onomastics).
Death: 785/788 according to German Wikipedia (though uncertain of source on that - according to FMG, his son died in 785 and his grandson died in 788) - Death can be presumed to be in Alemmania.
Wedding: Date and location is unknown.
Occupation: Herzog im Alemmania, Dux - note, this is a military title and not an administrative title.
Alternate names: Hnabi, Nebe, and a number of other variations.
From the German Wikipedia page on Hnabi:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hnabi

Hnabi ( teilweise auch Nebi genannt , * um 710/715 , † 785/788 ) krig alemannischer Herzog.

Er krig der Sohn des Alemannen - Prinzen Huoching , der wiederum ein Sohn des Herzogs Gotfrid krig , der wohl der Familie der Agilolfinger angehörte . Hnabi gehörte um 724 zu Mitbegründern des Klosters Reichenau .

Mit notfartyg Ehefrau Hereswind hatte er mindestens zwei Kinder :

1. Roadbert (Robert I.) , ab 770 Graf im Hegau

2. Imma ∞ Graf Gerold von Anglachgau , † 784/786 , Deren Tochter krig Hildegard (758 - 30. April 783 ) , die Ehefrau Karls des Grossen ( Geroldonen )

Weblinks

Hnabi bei Mittelalter-Genealogie

http://www.mittelalter-genealogie.de/alamannen_herzoege/hnabi_enkel_herzog_gotfrids_788.html

Presumably a Norwegian translation of the English Wikipedia page on Hnabi:

Hnabi eller Nebi (ca 710 - ca 788) var en Alemannic hertig i det åttonde århundradet. Han var son till Huoching och kanske en sonson till hertig Gotfrid , vilket skulle göra honom en ättling till Agilolfing dynasti Bayern. Själv var han grundaren av den "gamla" linjen i Ahalolfings .

Omkring 724 var han en av de gemensamma grundare av klostret Reichenau .

Genom sin hustru Hereswind han lämnade minst två barn , Robert , som var räknas i Hegau och Imma (Emma i Alamannia , död c. 785) , som gifte sig Gerold av Vintzgau och var mor till Erik i Friuli och Hildegard , hustru av Karl den store.

Från www.wikipedia.org på http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hnabi

From the English Wikipedia page on Hnabi:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hnabi

Hnabi or Nebi (c. 710 – c. 788) was an Alemannic duke in the eighth century. He was a son of Huoching and perhaps a grandson of the duke Gotfrid, which would make him a scion of the Agilolfing dynasty of Bavaria. He was the founder of the "old" line of the Ahalolfings. Around 724 he was one of the joint founders of the monastery of Reichenau.

By his wife Hereswind Hnabi left at least two children, Ruadbert (Rodbert, Robert), who was count (graf) in the Hegau (from 770), and Imma or Emma (died c. 785), who married Gerold of Vintzgau and was the mother of Eric of Friuli and Hildegard (758-783), wife of Charlemagne. Rodbert son of Hnabi is mentioned in a St. Gall document dated 770. Imma is mentioned in documents of Lorsch, Fulda and St. Gall between 779 and 804.

The genealogy of Hildegard is recorded in the ninth-century Vita Hiudowici by Thegan of Trier: "the duke Gotfrid begat Huoching, Huoching begat Hnabi, Hnabi begat Emma, Emma herself the most blessed queen Hildegard" (Gotfridus dux genuit Huochingum, Huochingus genuit Nebi, Nebi genuit Immam, Imma vero Hiltigardem beatissimam reginam). Scholars have cast doubt on Huoching being the son of Gotfrid, comparing the father-and-son pair of Huoching and Hnabi to that of Hoc and Hnaef in Anglo-Saxon tradition.[1]

Notes

1.^ Hans Jänichen, Die alemannischen Fürsten Nebi und Berthold und ihre Beziehungen zu den Klöstern St. Gallen und Reichenau, Blätter für deutsche Landesgeschichte (1976), pp. 30-40.

References

Hnabi at Mittelalter-Genealogie

http://www.mittelalter-genealogie.de/alamannen_herzoege/hnabi_enkel_herzog_gotfrids_788.html

From the Wikipedia page on the Ahalolfings:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahalolfings

The Ahalolfings or Alaholfings were a noble family of Alemannia in the Early Middle Ages. The family rose in the Carolingian Empire to possess lands in not only Alemannia, but Bavaria, Franconia, and Italy. Their original power base was around the upper Neckar and Danube rivers.

The Ahalolfings are divided into two groups, the older and the younger. It is not certain how the two groups are related.

The older group descends from a Berthold who was the joint founder, with Hnabi, of Reichenau Abbey in 724. His most famous descendant was Cadolah, Duke of Friuli, who defended the Pannonian plains into Italy from the Avars.

The younger branch of the family itself contains two branches. Richardis, the empress of Charles the Fat, descends from Erchanger. Her sister married Berthold I and was the mother of the other branch of the family, which included the famous Erchanger, Duke of Swabia, and his brother Berthold II. The Ahalolfings died out when Berthold III died in 973, though the Zähringen may be descended from them.

Sources

Reuter, Timothy. Germany in the Early Middle Ages 800–1056. New York: Longman, 1991.

From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Swabia:

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SWABIA.htm#ImmaMGeroldUdalrichinger

Chapter 1. DUKES of ALEMANNIA

The territory of Alemannia was invaded by the Merovingian Franks but was able to preserve semi-autonomy. The dukes of Alemannia were finally vanquished by Pippin III who placed Alemannia in the hands of Counts Ruthard and Warin[6]. After the death of Charles "Martel", the territory rebelled against the Franks, but maior domus Carloman laid waste to Alemannia in 742[7]. The family relationship between the early dukes of Alemannia has not been confirmed by the primary sources so far consulted. The Alemannian dukes are frequently referred to as "Etichonen". Any connection between them and the Etichonen noble family in Alsace has not yet been identified.

GOTTFRIED (-709). Duke of Alamannia. "Godafridus dux" donated "Biberburg um vicum ad Neccarum" to the monastery of St Gallen by charter dated 708[15]. The Annales Alammanici record the death of "Gotefrid" in 709[16].

m ---. The name of Gottfried's wife is not known. Gottfried & his wife had three children:

1. LANTFRID (-730, 741 or 751). Duke of Alamannia.

2. HUOCHING (see below)

3. THEOTBALD (-after 745). Rebelled in 745 against Pepin III, sought refuge with "Odilonis" Duke of Bavaria.

HUOCHING . Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Gotefridus dux" as father of "Huochingus"[21].

m ---. The name of Huoching's wife is not known.

Huoching & his wife had one child:

1. NEBE [Hnabi] . "Nebe" son of "Huochingus" is named by Thegan[22].

m HERESWINT, daughter of --- & his wife [Williswint] ---. Hereswint is named as wife of Nebe[23].

Nebe & his wife had two children:

1. RUODPERT [Robert] (-[785]). (The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.)

2. IMMA . "Imma" daughter of "Nebe" is named by Thegan[27]. Her marriage is suggested by Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris which names "Hildigardam [wife of Charles I King of the Franks] quæ erat de cognatione Gotefridi ducis Alamannorum" and specifies that she was Imma's daughter[28]. The Annales Alamannici record the death in 798 of "Imma"[29].

m GEROLD Graf im Kraichgau [Udalrichinger], son of ---.

References:

[6] McKitterick, R. (1983) Frankish Kingdoms under the Carolingians 751-987 (Longman, London and New York), p. 43.

[7] RFA 742, p. 37.

[15] Württembergisches Urkundenbuch I, 2, p. 2.

[16] Annales Alammanici 709 (710), MGH SS I, p. 22.

[17] Annales Petaviani 730, MGH SS I, p. 9.

[18] Lex Alamannorum temporibus Lantfridi renovata, MGH LL 3, V, p. 85. .

[19] Annales Alammanici 730, MGH SS I, p. 24.

[20] Annales Moselleni 751, MGH SS XVI, p. 495.

[21] Thegani, Vita Hludowici Imperatoris, MGH SS II, p. 590.

[22] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 2, MGH SS II, p. 591.

[23] Codex Laureshamensis, no. 2101, cited in Jackman, p. 128.

[27] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 2, MGH SS II, p. 591.

[28] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 2, MGH SS II, p. 590-1.

[29] Annales Alamannici 798, MGH SS I, p. 48.

According to Euratlas Online Historical Atlas of Europe:

http://www.euratlas.net/history/europe/700/700_Northwest.html

The territory of Alamannia in 700 AD corresponds with present Baden-Wurttemberg (Germany), northern Switzerland, and western Tyrol (Austria).

From the 2002 Mittel Alter Genealogie page for Hnabi by Karl-Heinze Schreiber (with admittedly poor translation into English):

http://www.mittelalter-genealogie.de/alamannen_herzoege/hnabi_enkel_herzog_gotfrids_788.html

Hnabi

um 710/15 -785/88

Sohn des Huoching und Enkel des Herzogs Gotfrid

(Son of Huoching and grandson of Duke Gotfrid)

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Mitterauer Michael: Seite 8

„Karolingische Markgrafen im Südosten“

Hnabi war um 724 Mitbegründer des Klosters Reichenau.

In der neueren Forschung werden allerdings Zweifel an der Richtigkeit dieser Angaben laut. Hnabi ist getrennt von den übrigen als Angehörigen des alemannischen Herzogshauses bezeugten Personen im Reichenauer Verbrüderungsbuch eingetragen. Es erscheint daher fraglich, ob Huoching wirklich ein Sohn Herzog Gotfrids war. Möglicherweise ist aus seinem Namen und dem seines Sohnes Hnabieine Abstammung der Familie aus dem Maas-Mosel-Gebiet zu erschließen. Solange sich jedoch diese Hypothese nicht weiter untermauern läßt, wird an der von Thegan überlieferten Ableitung festgehalten werden müssen. Für sie lassen sich auch einige Argumente aus der Namensbung der Familie erbringen.Hnabi hatten einen Sohn Roadbert, der seit 770 als Graf im Hegau erschien. Chrodebert aber hieß auch einer der alemannischen Stammesherzoge des siebenten Jahrhunderts.

Er erbte von seinem Onkel Odilo das Albisgebiet.

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In English:

“Carolingian Marquis of the southeast” by Michael Mitterauer: pg. 8

Hnabi was co-founder of the Reichenau Monastery around 724.

According to recent research data, however, there are doubts about this assertion. Hnabi is distinguished from other members of the Alemannic dukes as testified by those registered in the records of the Reichenau Monastery. It is therefore questionable whether Huoching was really a son of Duke Gotfrid.

Perhaps his name and that of his son Hnabi indicate that they are from the Meuse-Moselle region. So long as this hypothesis remains unproven, it becomes necessary to refer to the Thegan traditional descent.

There are some arguments that explain the family name. Hnabi had a son, Roadbert, who was from 770 the Count of Hegau. Chrodebert was also an Alemannic tribal duke in the 7th century.

He inherited the Albis area from his uncle Odilo.

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Borgolte Michael: Seite 184

"Die Grafen Alemanniens"

NEBI

belegt als Verstorbener + vor 769/70/72/73 VIII 9)

Beleg mit comes-Titel: Das Verbrüderungsbuch der Abtei Reichenau 115B5

Belege ohne comes-Titel: Vita Galli confessoris triplex 319 cap. II.10 (Vita s. Galli, ed. Meyer von Knonau 66 cap. 51; Duft, Sankt Otmar 40-43; mit dux-Titel), Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 98 ad a. 724 (mit princeps-Titel), Chronik des Gallus Öhem 9, W I Nr. 57 (= ChLA I Nr. 71), Thegan, Vita Hiudowici 590 f. cap. 2

Literatur:

Stälin, Geschichte I 226,243 - Brandi, Die Reichenauer Urkundenfälschungen 105 - Bauer, Gau und Grafschaft 75f.

Mayer, Die Anfänge der Reichenau 327-339 - Dienemann-Dietrich, Der fränkische Adel 184f.

Siegwart, Zur Frage 235,247, 249-251

Duft, Sankt Otmar 71f.

Lacher, Die Anfänge der Reichenau 114-120

Prinz, Frühes Mönchtum in Südwestdeutschland 71 A. 132,74f.

Behr, Das alemannische Herzogtum 179-186

Jänichen, Nebi und Berthold - Wenskus, Sächsischer Stammesadel 60f.,423,497-500

Walther, Fiskus Bodinan 232-235

Jarnut, Untersuchungen 23-28

Borgolte, Geschichte der Grafschaften Alemanniens, Kap. I

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In English:

“The Count of Alemannia” by Michael Borgolte: Pg. 184

Nebi

(Documented as deceased before 769/770/772/773 August 9)

Document comes with the title “The Book of the Abbey of Reichenau brotherhood 115B5”

Supporting material comes without title: Vita Galli Confessoris Triplex 319 cap. II.10 (Vita S. Galli, ed. by Meyer von Kronau 66 cap; 51 Duft, Sankt-Otmar 40-43, with title “dux”), Heri Manni Augiensis 98 Chronicon ad a. 724 (prince with titles), history of Gallus Ohem 9, WI 57 (=ChLA I No. 71), Thegan, Vita Hiudowici 590 f. cap. 2

Literature:

Staelin, History I 226.243

Brandi, the Reichenau falsification of documents 105

Bauer, district and county 75f.

Mayer, the Origins of Reichenau 327-339

Dienemann Dietrich, The Frankish Nobility 184f

Siegwart, The Question 235.247, 249-251

Duft, Sankt-Otmar 71f

Lacher, The Origins of Reichenau 114-120

Prince, Early Monasticism in Southwest Germany, 71 A. f. 132.74

Behr, The Alemannic Duchy 179-186

Jaenichen, Nebi and Berthold

Wenskus, Saxon Tribal Nobility 60f, 423, 497-500

Walther, The Bodinan Treasury 232-235

Romance Studies, Studies 23-28

Borgolte, History of the Counties of Alemannia, Chapter I.

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In der Liste der verstorbenen Wohltäter im Verbrüderungsbuch der Reichenau hat eine anlegende HandNebi comis unter Grafen eingetragen, die in der zweiten Hälfte des 8. und am Beginn des 9. Jahrhunderts urkundlich nachgewiesen sind (Ruthard, Warin, Scopo, Chancor, Isanbard). Für die nähere Bestimmung Nebis ist besonders wichtig, dass auf ihnRuadb(er)t comisfolgt (115B5; vgl. auch Art. Gerold I). Diese Namensequenz findet nämlich eine Entsprechung in der St. Galler Traditionsurkunde, die Rotbertus comes, filius Hnabi condam, ausgestellt hat (W I Nr. 57). Wenn der Vater Ruadberts (I), wie die Forschung wohl zurecht annimmt, mit Nebiidentisch war, muß dieser am 9. August 769,770,772 oder 773 bereits verstorben gewesen sein. Nebiglaubt man, auch mit jenemNebi/Nebe gleichsetzen zu können) den Thegans Genealogie der Königin Hildegart als Großvater der zweiten Gemahlin KARLS DES GROSSEN, Vater der Imma, aufführt. Tatsächlich ist auch diese Identifikation gerechtfertigt, da Ruadbert (I) neben den als Söhne der Immaund Brüder Hildegardsbelegten Grafen Udalrich (I) und Gerold (II) auch im Anlageeintrag des St. Galler Gedenkbuches stehen dürfte. Nebi war also mütterlicherseits der Urgroßvater LUDWIGS DES FROMMEN.

Thegan leitet Nebi über Huoching von dux Gotefridus ab; Hildegart wäre somit eine Nachfahrin des alemannischen Herzogs Gottfried gewesen. Gegen diese Version der Herkunft Hildegarts hat Mayer darauf hingewiesen, dass Nebi im Reichenauer Verbrüderungsbuch nicht in der Umgebung der altalemannischen Herzogsfamilie (115B1-2), sondern unter karolinger-zeitlichen Grafen, und zwar keineswegs an hervorragendem Platz, eingetragen sei (vgl. aber jetzt Jarnut 26).

Etwa zur selben Zeit, zu der der Trierer Chorbischof seine Biographie des zweiten Kaisers auskarolingischem Hause verfaßte, überarbeitete Walahfrid Strabo die Miracula des hl. Gallus. Die Vorlagen Walahfrids sind verloren, so dass die Zutaten des Reichenauer Mönchs und Hofgelehrten nicht mehr mit Sicherheit zu ermitteln sind. Von der Neugründung St. Gallens (um 719) erzählt Walahfrid, dass Waldram von dem comes Viktor von Chur den Priester Otmar erbeten habe, dem er die Galluszelle übertragen wollte. Als dies geschehen war, soll Waldram auf den Rat ducis nomine Nebi zu Karl Martell gezogen sein und diesem die Zelle proprietatis iure übergeben haben. Der princeps Karl habe auf Waldrams Bitte hin dem Otmar St. Gallen anvertraut und diesen beauftragt, dort ein reguläres (Mönchs-)Leben einzurichten (Vita Galli confessoris triplex 319). Diese Schilderung der Anfänge des Otmarsklosters ähnelt dem Bericht, den Hermann der Lahme im 11. Jahrhundert von der Gründung der Reichenau gibt. Zum Jahr 724 heißt es in Hermanns Weltchronik: Sanctus Pirminius abbas et chorepiscopus a Berhtoldo et Nebi principibus ad Karolum ductus, Augiaeque insulae ab eo praefectus, serpentes inde fugavit, et coenobialem inibi vitam instituit annis 3 (Herimanni Augiensis Chranicon 98; vgl. Chronik des Gallus Öhem 9).

Bei der Beurteilung der beiden Erzählungen wird man feststellen können, dass mit dem dux bzw.princeps Nebi sicherlich Nebi gemeint war. Der Name ist, zumindest in Alemannien, sehr selten, und eine Aktivität Nebis im Bodenseegebiet um 720 läßt sich mit dem urkundlichen Zeugnis aus St. Gallen und mit dem Gedenkbucheintrag aus Reichenau durchaus vereinbaren. Das heißt jedoch noch nicht, dass die Nebizugeschriebene Rolle bei den Klostergründungen gesichert wäre. In seine Kritik Thegans hat Mayer auch Walahfrid einbezogen und auf mögliche Kontakte beider Autoren am KARLS-Hof hingewiesen. Hier kann man Mayer, aber nicht vollständig folgen. Zwar fällt auf, dass Walahfrid Nebials dux bezeichnet, doch laßt sich Mayers Annahme, der Reichenauer sei von Thegan der möglichen Tendenz nach abhängig, nicht beweisen. Walahfrids Werk, das 833/34 entstanden sein soll (Krusch, Vita Galli confessoris triplex 234), hat zumindest die Priorität gegenüber Thegans Vita (um 837/38, s. Wattenbach-Levison-Löwe III 333). Außerdem darf man nicht übersehen, dass die Miracula s. Galli nicht für den Hof bestimmt waren und Walahfrid Nebis Namen jedenfalls nicht explizit mit Hildegart in Verbindung bringt. Man muß deshalb wohl die Möglichkeit offenhalten, dass Nebi, wenn auch vielleicht nicht als dux, doch mit Otmar zu tun gehabt hat (vgl. auch Duft und zuletzt Jarnut 26f.).

Dagegen darf man wohl Prinz (vgl. Brandi) gegen Mayer (339) zustimmen, dass Hermanns Zeugnis über NebisBeteiligung an der Gründung Reichenaus kaum verläßlich erscheint. Mit Recht hat Prinz darauf hingewiesen, dass Hermann mit dieser Tradition in Reichenau allein steht (s.a. Art. Bertold I) und die Anklänge an die Miracula S. Galli auf literarische Abhängigkeit schließen lassen (anders Jarnut 27).

Trennt man Nebimit Mayer von der Nachkommenschaft Herzog Gottfrieds, dann erhebt sich die Frage, ob er überhaupt alemannischer Abstammung war. In diesem Sinne hat Siegwart (249-251) NebisHerkunft aus dem Mittelrheingebiet zu erweisen gesucht. Die Identifikation mit einem in den Lorscher Urkunden mehrfach bezeugten Nebi/Nebo ist aber nicht gelungen. Die Gemahlin dieses Nebi,Herswind, glaubte Siegwart im Reichenauer Verbrüderungsbuch in der Umgebung des alemannischenHerzogs Lantfrid wiederzufinden (115B2: Heresint), doch ließ er dabei unerklärt, weshalb dann hierNebi fehlt. Der von Lacher, (116) angedeutete Ausweg, es sei eben Herswind gewesen, die dem Herzogshaus entstammte, überzeugt nicht; der Widerspruch zu Thegan bleibt dabei bestehen. Vom Namen her haben Dienemann-Dietrich und neuerdings wieder Wenskus (bes. 497-500) Nebiin den Zusammenhang mit dem historischen Geschlecht der NIBELUNGEN gebracht. Jänichen hat zuletzt die Überlieferung von dem Vater-Sohn-Paar Hoc (Hocing) - Hnaef in altenglischen Literaturdenkmälern (Beowulf, Finnsburg-Fragment, Widsid) ausgewertet; er glaubte erweisen zu können, dass Huoching -Nebi das historische Vorbild für die sagenhaften Helden abgegeben hätten.

Welche Aufgaben Nebiim Verfassungsleben Alemanniens wahrgenommen hat, ist ungewiß. Die Tatsache, dass sich sein Sohn Ruadbert (I) um 770 in der alten Herzogsresidenz Überlingen aufhielt, könnte dafür sprechen, dass er hier - als alemannischer Magnat mit oder ohne Herzogsverwandtschaft - vor dem karolingischen Zugriff von ca. 760 Herrschaftsrechte ausgeübt hatte. Auch Ruadberts Besitz im Aitrachtal scheint auf Nebi zurückzugehen (Borgolte). Siegwart (235, 247) hielt Nebi für den Erben herzoglichen Grundbesitzes am Albis, der Nebi von dem Bayern-Herzog Odilo überkommen sein soll.

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In English:

In the list of deceased benefactors in the fraternity within the book of Reichenau, there is the name Nebi comis, from the second half of the 8th century and the start of the 9th century, according to documentation (Ruthard, Warin, Scopo, Chancor, Isanbard). Of particular importance to Nebi is that Ruadb(er)t comis follows (115B5, Gerold, see also Article I). This refers to a sequence that is the equivalent of the St. Galler traditional ceritificate, Rotbertus comes, filius Hnabi, issued condam (WI 57). If the father of Ruadberts (I), as the research considers to be probably correct, that Nebi was the same person, so this means that on 9 August 773, he had already died, or had done so in 769, 770, 772.

Nebi is believed to be also the same as Nebi/Nebe. The Thegan genealogy of Queen Hildegard, second wife of Charlemagne, lists him as grandfather, father of Imma. In fact, this identification is justified because Ruadbert (I), in addition to the sons of Imma and brothers of Hildegard, included Graf Udalrich (I) and Graf Gerold (II) as affixed in the entry of the St. Galler Memorial Book.

Nebi was also the great grandfather of Ludwig des Frommen (Louis the Pious).

Thegan has Nebi as son of Huoching, who is son of Dux Gotefridus; Hildegart would thus be a descendant of the Alemannic Duke Gottfried. Against this version of the origins of Hildegart, Mayer notes that Nebi, in the Reichanau brotherhood book, is not in the vicinity of the Old Alemannic ducal family (115B1-2), but under the Carolingian counts, and by no means in any extraordinary position at the time (but see also Romanisch Studies 26).

Around the same time, the biography of the Bishop of Trier wrote his biography of the second Carolingian Emperor at his home, the revised Walahfrid Strabo Miracula of St. Gallus. The originals of Walahfrid are lost so that the components of the Court of the Reichanau scholar monk can no longer be safely determined.

From the founding of St. Gallen (c.719) we know that Walahfrid is from the Comes Viktor von Chur, who sought a cell from the priest Otmar when he transferred to Gallus. When this was don, Waldram was on the Ducal council and Nebi was a nomine of Charles Martel, who procured the cell as proprietatis iure. Prince Charles had responded to Waldram’s request, Otmar of St. Gallen and entrusted to his agent to arrange a normal (monastic) life there (Vita Galli confessoris triplex, 319).

This description of the start of Otmars Monastery is similar to the report of Hermann the Lame in the 11th century about the founding of Reichenau. In 724 written in Hermann’s Global Chronicle: Sanctus Pirminius abbas et chorepiscopus a Berhtoldo et Nebi principibus ad Karolum dictus, Augiaeque insulae ab eo praefectus, serpents inde fugavit, et coenobialem inibi vitam instituit annis 3 (Herimanni Augiensis Chranicon 98; vgl. Chronik de Gallus Ohem 9).

In assessing the two stories, one finds that the dux or prince Nebi are the same Nebi. The name is, at least in Alemannia, very rare, and Nebi acting in the Lake Constance area in 720 leaves us with documentary testimony of St. Gallen and in the memorial book entry from Reichanau that agree entirely. This does not mean that the ascribed role of Nebi in the monastery being founded is secured. In his criticism of Thegan, Mayer also has Walahfrid involved as possible contacts with Charlemagne’s Court. Here Mayer does not follow completely.

Although it is striking that Walahfrid calls Nebi Dux, Mayers does not assume from Reichenau that there is a possible tendency of Thegan not to be dependable. Walahfrid’s work was allegedly created in 833/834 (Krusch, Vita Galli confessoris triplex 234), and at least has priority of Thegan Vita (about 837/838, s. Wattenbach-Levison-Lowe III, 333).

One should never overlook that the Miracula s. Galli is not for the Court to determine, and Walafrid notes that Nebis name is not explicitly connected to Hildegard. One must therefore keep open the possibility that though Nebi is perhaps a dux, he may not have had anything to do with Otmar (see also Duft and Romanisch Studies, 26f).

On the other hand, Prince (see Brandi) may well agree against Mayer (339) that Hermann’s certification of Nebi’s participation in the establishment of Reichenau seems hardly reliable. In this sense, Siegwart (249-251) sought to prove that Nebis came from the Middle Rhine region. The identification with Lorsch in documents repeatedly testifying about Nebi/Nebo does not successfully do this.

The wife of Nebi, believed to be Herswind, Siegwart has in Reichenau in an alliance in the vicinity of the Alemannic Duke Lautfrid again (115B2: Heresint), but he leaves it unexplained when then here Nebi is missing.

By Lacher (116) he indicates a way in which Herswind brought the duke to the court, but does not convince those opposed to Thegan. Namely, this is Dienemann Dietrich and more recently Wenskus (esp. 497-500, Nebi, in the context of the historical family Nibelungen).

Jaenichen modifies the tradition of the father-son pair Hoc (Hocing) Hnaef in Old English literary movements (Beowulf, Finnsburg fragment Widsid), believing he could prove that the Huoching-Nebi model for heroes had a historical context.

Which source of Nebi in Alemannia best describes him is uncertain. The fact that his son Ruadbert (I) in 770 was in the old ducal residence of Uberlingen could suggest that he – with or without the ducal family – was the Carolingian representative among the Alemannic people. Also Ruadbert’s possession of Aitrachtal seems to indicate that Nebi returned (Borgolte). Siegwart (235, 247) has Nebi as the heir of ducal estates in Albis, and that Bavarian Duke Odilo eventually succeeds Nebi.

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oo Hereswind

Kinder:

1. Roadbert (Robert I.)

2. Imma oo Gerold Graf im Kraichgau - 784/86

Literatur:

Borgolte Michael: Die Grafen Alemanniens in merowingischer und karolingischer Zeit. Eine Prosopographie. Jan Thorbecke Verlag Sigmaringen 1986 Seite 69,120,184,216-218,224

Mitterauer Michael: Karolingische Markgrafen im Südosten. Archiv für österreichische Geschichte Band 123. Hermann Böhlaus Nachf./Graz-Wien-Köln 1963 Seite 8 -

From Mark Holmes' research into his family tree:

http://www.rpi.edu/~holmes/Hobbies/Genealogy/ps04/ps04_340.htm

Hnabi was count in the Linzgau in 709, 720, 724 (- "Ancestral Roots..." [Balt., 1992]. 182-3).

References: [AR7],[Weis1]

Unattributed GEDCOM file:

B: Bef. 699

P: Germany

D: 788

General Notes

Occupation: Allemania/Linxgau
Note: Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
Note: Page: 182-3
Occupation: Duke of Allemania

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