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Graaf Otto van Loon Gronsveld
French: comte Otto de Looz Duras, Dutch: Graaf Otto Herman van Loon Gronsveld
Gender: Male
Birth: circa 1021
Death: circa 1078 (48-65)
1084? 1101 or after
Immediate Family:
Son of Giselbert, Count of Looz and Luitgard Emma van Namen
Husband of Oda van Duras
Father of Giselbert II van Loon Gronsveld, graaf van Duras; Bovo van Loon van Duras; NN NN and Arnold van Gronsveld, heer van Elsloo
Brother of Emmo II, Count of Looz and Ermengarde (Irmgard) van Loon
Half brother of Margaretha van Loon
Added by: Knut Stangenberg on April 19, 2010
Managed by: George J. Homs, Knut Stangenberg and FARKAS Mihály László
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OTTO de Looz, hijo de [GISELBERT Comte de Looz] y su esposa [Liutgarde de Namur] (-1101 o después). La Vita Arnulfi nombra a "Emmonem et Ottonem fratrem eius" como hijos de Liutgarde, hija de Albert [I] Comte de Namur[619]. Desde un punto de vista cronológico, no es posible que Emmo y su hermano hayan sido hijos de Otto de Looz quien, como se indicó anteriormente, está registrado en otras fuentes primarias como el esposo de Liutgarde de Namur. La fuente principal que confirma que Emmo y Otto eran hijos del conde Giselbert aún no se ha identificado, aunque este parentesco sugerido encajaría en la cronología de la familia. La Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium nombra "Ottonem comitem Durachii, fratrem Emmonis comitis de Los" al registrar su instalación en 1060 como subadvocatus de San Trudo[620]. 1046/1101. Conde de Duras. m ODA de Duras, hija de GISELBERT Comte de Duras y su esposa ---. La fuente principal que confirma su filiación y matrimonio aún no ha sido identificada. Comte Otto y su esposa tuvieron dos hijos: 1. GISELBERT (-[1138]). La Vita Arnulfi nombra a "Otto frater Emmonis" como padre de "Gislebertum de Duraz"[621]. "Heinricus... Romanorum imperator augustus" confirmó las donaciones a St Jakob, Liège mediante carta de 23 de abril de 1088, a petición del "Comite de Heinrico de Durbui", en presencia del "comite Cuonrado et Gileberto filio comitis Ottonis de Los..."[622]. La Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium nombra "Durachiensis comes Gyslebertus"[623]. Conde de Duras. "Comes de Claromonte Lambertus" otorgó el derecho de tomar madera de sus bosques en "predicti castelli" a los monjes de Flône por carta fechada en 1136, atestiguada por "comes Arnulfus de Los, comes Gislebertus de Duras, Walterus advocatus de Barz..."[ 624]. Sous-avocat de San Truido. m en primer lugar GERTRUD, hija de --- (-1114, bur Abbey St Trudo). La Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium nombra a "comitissa Gertrude" como esposa de "advocato nostro Gisleberto", nombrando "comite Arnulfo et Theoderico fratre eius", y especificando su entierro en la abadía[625]. m en segundo lugar ODA de Chiny, hija de OTTO [II] Comte de Chiny y su segunda esposa Alix de Namur. Comte Giselbert y su primera esposa tuvieron siete hijos: a) OTTO [II] (-1147). La Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium nombra a "Ottone et Gisleberto" como hijos de "advocato nostro Gisleberto" y su esposa Gertrude[626]. Conde de Duras. La Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium registra una donación moribunda de "comes Otto" en 1147 y su entierro en la abadía[627]. m como su primer marido, BERTHE de Ribemont, hija de GODEFROI [II] de Ribemont Châtelain de Valenciennes Seigneur de Bouchain y su esposa Yolande van Geldern. El Chronicon Hanoniense registra que "Yoandis comitissa vidua" se casó en segundo lugar con "Godefrido de Bochesin castellano Valencenensi", de quien fue madre de "filium...Godefridum et filiam Bertam [uxorem] comiti de Duraz, deinde nupsit Egidio de Sancto Oberto a quo filium... Gerardum et filiam…[uxorem] Nicholao de Barbencione”[628]. Se casó en segundo lugar con Guy de Saint-Aubert. Comte Otto y su esposa tuvieron un hijo: i) JULIANA (-1164). La fuente principal que confirma su filiación y dos matrimonios aún no ha sido identificada. Heredera de Duras. m en primer lugar GODEFROI Comte de Montaigu et de Clermont, hijo de LAMBERT Comte de Montaigu y su esposa --- (-1161 o después). m en segundo lugar ENGUERRAND d'Orbais, hijo de BERNARD d´Orbais y su esposa Ida de Coucy (-1185 o después). b) CONÓN. La fuente principal que confirma su filiación aún no ha sido identificada. Seigneur d'Autreppes et de Diepenbeck. Canónigo de Lieja, St Lambert 1135/55. c) GISELBERT. La Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium nombra a "Ottone et Gisleberto" como hijos de "advocato nostro Gisleberto" y su esposa Gertrude[629]. d) GERARDO (-1174). La Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium nombra "Otto comes, frater eiusdem Gerardi", al registrar el nombramiento de este último como abad de San Truido en 1145[630]. La Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium registra su renuncia como abad en 1155[631]. e) THIERRY (-1183 o posterior). La Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium nombra "frater eius Theodericus canonicus Sancti Lamberti et Bruno, qui post archidiaconatum eiusdem ecclesiæ meruit" como testigo de la donación de "comes Otto" en 1147[632]. Preboste en Huy 1130/53. Canónigo de Lieja, St Lambert 1141/58. Archidiácono 1167/83. f) BRUNO (-1177 o posterior). La Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium nombra "frater eius Theodericus canonicus Sancti Lamberti et Bruno, qui post archidiaconatum eiusdem ecclesiæ meruit" como testigo de la donación de "comes Otto" en 1147[633]. Canónigo en Lieja, St Lambert 1149. "Gilius quondam comes Durachiensis" donó propiedad a los Caballeros Hospitalarios, nombrando "Petrus frater meus comes de Monteacuto et Cono frater meus comes Durachiensis…et avunculus noster domnus Bruno archidiaconus", por carta de 1175[634 ]. g) hija. La fuente principal que confirma su filiación y matrimonio aún no ha sido identificada. m MAINERO de Cortessem . 2. BOVO de Duras. La fuente principal que confirma su filiación aún no ha sido identificada. m ---. a) SIMÓN de Waha. el primitivo
OTTO de Looz, son of [GISELBERT Comte de Looz] & his wife [Liutgarde de Namur] (-1101 or after). The Vita Arnulfi names "Emmonem et Ottonem fratrem eius" as sons of Liutgarde, daughter of Albert [I] Comte de Namur[619]. From a chronological point of view, it is not possible for Emmo and his brother to have been the children of Otto de Looz who, as stated above, is recorded in other primary sources as the husband of Liutgarde de Namur. The primary source which confirms that Emmo and Otto were the sons of Comte Giselbert has not yet been identified, although this suggested parentage would fit the chronology of the family. The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "Ottonem comitem Durachii, fratrem Emmonis comitis de Los" when recording his installation in 1060 as subadvocatus of St Trudo[620]. 1046/1101. Comte de Duras.
m ODA de Duras, daughter of GISELBERT Comte de Duras & his wife ---. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified.
Comte Otto & his wife had two children:
1. GISELBERT (-[1138]). The Vita Arnulfi names "Otto frater Emmonis" as father of "Gislebertum de Duraz"[621]. "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" confirmed donations to St Jakob, Liège by charter dated 23 Apr 1088, at the request of "Heinrico comite de Durbui", witnessed by "comite Cuonrado et Gileberto filio comitis Ottonis de Los…"[622]. The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "Durachiensis comes Gyslebertus"[623]. Comte de Duras. "Comes de Claromonte Lambertus" granted the right to take wood from his forests in "predicti castelli" to the monks of Flône by charter dated 1136, witnessed by "comes Arnulfus de Los, comes Gislebertus de Duras, Walterus advocatus de Barz…"[624]. Sous-avocat of St Truido. m firstly GERTRUD, daughter of --- (-1114, bur Abbey St Trudo). The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "comitissa Gertrude" as wife of "advocato nostro Gisleberto", naming "comite Arnulfo et Theoderico fratre eius", and specifying her burial in the abbey[625]. m secondly ODA de Chiny, daughter of OTTO [II] Comte de Chiny & his second wife Alix de Namur. Comte Giselbert & his first wife had seven children:
a) OTTO [II] (-1147). The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "Ottone et Gisleberto" as sons of "advocato nostro Gisleberto" and his wife Gertrude[626]. Comte de Duras. The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium records a dying donation of "comes Otto" in 1147 and his burial in the abbey[627]. m as her first husband, BERTHE de Ribemont, daughter of GODEFROI [II] de Ribemont Châtelain de Valenciennes Seigneur de Bouchain & his wife Yolande van Geldern. The Chronicon Hanoniense records that "Yoandis comitissa vidua" married secondly "Godefrido de Bochesin castellano Valencenensi", by whom she was mother of "filium…Godefridum et filiam Bertam [uxorem] comiti de Duraz, deinde nupsit Egidio de Sancto Oberto a quo filium…Gerardum et filiam…[uxorem] Nicholao de Barbencione"[628]. She married secondly Guy de Saint-Aubert. Comte Otto & his wife had one child:
i) JULIANA (-1164). The primary source which confirms her parentage and two marriages has not yet been identified. Heiress of Duras. m firstly GODEFROI Comte de Montaigu et de Clermont, son of LAMBERT Comte de Montaigu & his wife --- (-1161 or after). m secondly ENGUERRAND d'Orbais, son of BERNARD d´Orbais & his wife Ida de Coucy (-1185 or after).
b) CONON . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Seigneur d'Autreppes et de Diepenbeck. Canon at Liège, St Lambert 1135/55.
c) GISELBERT . The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "Ottone et Gisleberto" as sons of "advocato nostro Gisleberto" and his wife Gertrude[629].
d) GERARD (-1174). The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "Otto comes, frater eiusdem Gerardi", when recording the latter's appointment as Abbot of St Truido in 1145[630]. The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium records his resignation as abbot in 1155[631].
e) THIERRY (-1183 or after). The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "frater eius Theodericus canonicus Sancti Lamberti et Bruno, qui post archidiaconatum eiusdem ecclesiæ meruit" as witnessing the donation of "comes Otto" in 1147[632]. Provost at Huy 1130/53. Canon at Liège, St Lambert 1141/58. Archdeacon 1167/83.
f) BRUNO (-1177 or after). The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "frater eius Theodericus canonicus Sancti Lamberti et Bruno, qui post archidiaconatum eiusdem ecclesiæ meruit" as witnessing the donation of "comes Otto" in 1147[633]. Canon at Liège, St Lambert 1149. "Gilius quondam comes Durachiensis" donated property to the Knights Hospitallers, naming "Petrus frater meus comes de Monteacuto et Cono frater meus comes Durachiensis…et avunculus noster domnus Bruno archidiaconus", by charter dated 1175[634].
g) daughter . The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. m MAINERUS de Cortessem .
2. BOVO de Duras . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. m ---.
a) SIMON de Waha . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Canon at Liège, St Lambert 1103.
b) JULIEN (-1127 or after). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Seigneur de Waha. 1102/27. m MATHILDE de Fronville, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. Julien & his wife had one child:
i) GUY . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Canon at Liège, St Lambert 1118/47.
c) HUGEL de Waha . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Châtelain de Mirwart. m CLEMENTIA de Chiny, daughter of ARNAUD II Comte de Chiny & his first wife Adela de Ramerupt [Roucy]. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. Hugel & his wife had one child:
i) LAMBERT . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Canon at Liège, St Lambert 1196/1223.
d) BOVO . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Canon at Liège, St Lambert [1108].
e) JEAN . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Abbot of St Hubert.
Source / Forrás:
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(LOWER)%20NOBILITY.h...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giselbert_van_Loon
Giselbert was succeeded by his son Emmo and possibly Otto, who ruled the county together. Giselbert was married to Erlande of Geldenaken, and they had the following children:
1 Emmo (died on January 17, 1078), Count of Loon
2 Otto (died in 1101), Count of Duras
3 Herman
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http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1427.htm#...
Otto I, Graf von Duras, Untervogt von St. Truiden1,2 M, d. after 1101 Father Giselbert I, Count von Loos, Hispengau d. a 1050 Mother Erlende of Jodoigne1 Charts Descendants of Charlemagne
Otto I, Graf von Duras, Untervogt von St. Truiden married Oda de Duras, daughter of Giselbert, Graf von Duras.1,2 Otto I, Graf von Duras, Untervogt von St. Truiden died after 1101.1,2 Family Oda de Duras Child ◦Giselbert, Graf von Duras, Untervogt von St. Truiden+1,2 d. c 1138
Citations 1.[S11569] Europaische Stammtafeln, by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, Vol. VI, Tafel 60. 2.[S11569] Europaische Stammtafeln, by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, Vol. VIII, Tafel 25.
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